Author Topic: Mr. Trump's Proposal for an Infrastructure Plan  (Read 1129 times)

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Re: Mr. Trump's Proposal for an Infrastructure Plan
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2018, 11:25:38 AM »
There are few factors I think that make Michigan roads worse.

A). Michigan has a LOT of truck traffic.  Additionally, these trucks are allowed to carry more weight than anywhere else in the country.  Truck weights are limited to 164,000 lbs. which are the highest in N. America.

B). A lot of the roads are VERY old...Michigan has some of the oldest freeways in the country.  The first freeway in America was opened in 1942 in Highland Park (suburb of Detroit).

C). Michigan has a lower standard for road thickness and the roads that are built, get built to an inferior standard (as compared to other places)

D). Some of the freeways have EXCEPTIONALLY poor design.

E). An alarming number of politicians are crooked and/or feeble minded.

So we end up with exceptionally poor roads/infrastructure.  I think a lot of people in the area simply think that is a "normal" situation.  They don't realize it does not have to be that way....

Sounds like lax regulation has caused problems.
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Re: Mr. Trump's Proposal for an Infrastructure Plan
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2018, 02:29:55 PM »
Canada is the same and after some overpass pieces have fallen on cars and even killed passengers a couple of years ago they have started making repairs.

I would think that Detroit and all areas subject to deep freeze followed by warm summers are more subject to infrastructure damage. Steel reinforced concrete combined with large changes in temperature and salt to melt ice is not a good combination.

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Detroit is indeed subject to "deep freeze" weather.  This winter has been particularly rough.  The weather is obviously difficult on the roads...HOWEVER, the roads in Michigan (Detroit) are orders or magnitude WORSE than roads in Ohio and Indiana.  Ohio & Indiana have similar weather conditions as Michigan.

There are few factors I think that make Michigan roads worse.

A). Michigan has a LOT of truck traffic.  Additionally, these trucks are allowed to carry more weight than anywhere else in the country.  Truck weights are limited to 164,000 lbs. which are the highest in N. America.

B). A lot of the roads are VERY old...Michigan has some of the oldest freeways in the country.  The first freeway in America was opened in 1942 in Highland Park (suburb of Detroit).

C). Michigan has a lower standard for road thickness and the roads that are built, get built to an inferior standard (as compared to other places)

D). Some of the freeways have EXCEPTIONALLY poor design.

E). An alarming number of politicians are crooked and/or feeble minded.

So we end up with exceptionally poor roads/infrastructure.  I think a lot of people in the area simply think that is a "normal" situation.  They don't realize it does not have to be that way....

I was in Michigan last month near the Ann Arbor area. I can attest that the highways and roads were the worst I have ever seen in North America. Pot holes everywhere...
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Re: Mr. Trump's Proposal for an Infrastructure Plan
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2018, 04:18:33 PM »
Canada is the same and after some overpass pieces have fallen on cars and even killed passengers a couple of years ago they have started making repairs.

I would think that Detroit and all areas subject to deep freeze followed by warm summers are more subject to infrastructure damage. Steel reinforced concrete combined with large changes in temperature and salt to melt ice is not a good combination.

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Detroit is indeed subject to "deep freeze" weather.  This winter has been particularly rough.  The weather is obviously difficult on the roads...HOWEVER, the roads in Michigan (Detroit) are orders or magnitude WORSE than roads in Ohio and Indiana.  Ohio & Indiana have similar weather conditions as Michigan.

There are few factors I think that make Michigan roads worse.

A). Michigan has a LOT of truck traffic.  Additionally, these trucks are allowed to carry more weight than anywhere else in the country.  Truck weights are limited to 164,000 lbs. which are the highest in N. America.

B). A lot of the roads are VERY old...Michigan has some of the oldest freeways in the country.  The first freeway in America was opened in 1942 in Highland Park (suburb of Detroit).

C). Michigan has a lower standard for road thickness and the roads that are built, get built to an inferior standard (as compared to other places)

D). Some of the freeways have EXCEPTIONALLY poor design.

E). An alarming number of politicians are crooked and/or feeble minded.

So we end up with exceptionally poor roads/infrastructure.  I think a lot of people in the area simply think that is a "normal" situation.  They don't realize it does not have to be that way....

I was in Michigan last month near the Ann Arbor area. I can attest that the highways and roads were the worst I have ever seen in North America. Pot holes everywhere...

Ann Arbor is in EXCELLENT condition compared to the East Side of Detroit!