Author Topic: SeekingAlpha turns Evil  (Read 11747 times)

Cigarbutt

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Re: SeekingAlpha turns Evil
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2018, 06:21:12 AM »
I found the SA articles to be uneven but some of them were very good.
At times, found it helpful to look that way in order to continue validation of an already researched investment thesis.
Even in the less than stellar articles, there were sometimes details which could be helpful in terms of potential outcome assessment.
Not sure it made a significant difference though.
Perhaps time better spent elsewhere.


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Re: SeekingAlpha turns Evil
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2018, 07:34:50 AM »
Just fyi, when I access from the app (mobile/tablet) it is like it used to be.

That reads absolutely ridiculous, if SA here hasen't tightened the ship totally, kab60! [ : - ) ] I just looked at the website, I could not see a link to an app anywhere. Is the app that you're using an app that you have downloaded from somewhere, kab60, or is it that you're ["just"] browsing the site from mobile/tablet?
Just browsing the content via SA app

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Re: SeekingAlpha turns Evil
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2018, 07:46:53 AM »
I think old earnings transcripts behind paywall now which sucks.  Wish they'd offer a low cost option to subscribe just to that.

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Re: SeekingAlpha turns Evil
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2018, 09:22:51 AM »
Most of the articles weren't that useful but I did really like the earnings transcripts as it was faster to read through them than to listen to them.  Looking at MSFT, GOOG, and AXP as examples, all but the most recent transcript is now behind a paywall.  It looks like the "Pro Research" subscription tier at $20 a month would unlock it.

Ex.
https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/MSFT/earnings/transcripts


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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2018, 09:55:18 AM »
After SA put the transcripts behind the paywall I signed up for BamSEC.  $35/mo or less if billed annually and they give you access to Thomson Reuters earnings and event transcripts.  Still learning my way around the other features but this is a really useful service, and the best value you can find at that price.

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Re: SeekingAlpha turns Evil
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2018, 09:55:44 AM »
Even on this board there is decreasing incentive to share ideas. You can see it in post quality. Some of that is due to folks stealing ideas on this site to write on SA.

I posted an idea here on ticker EXTN on Nov. 5th, 2015. It was picked as a "top-idea" on Dec. 1st, 2015 on Seeking Alpha by another author. Plagiarized? Not exactly, but it did seem a bit sketchy to me. For reference, there has been a grand total of two articles written on EXTN on Seeking Alpha, one of which was the article written less than 30 days after I posted here. Granted, I didn't write the article myself on Seeking Alpha, (which I suppose I could have), but I doubt the author could tell you with a straight face he didn't "borrow" the idea from my original post here. I much prefer this site because it isn't run like the bottom feeding losers run Seeking Alpha.

http://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax.ca/forum/investment-ideas/extn-exterran-corporation/msg252343/#msg252343
https://seekingalpha.com/article/3719086-exterran-corporation-undervalued-underfollowed-spin-100-percent-upside

Edit: The author's first bullet point: "contracted compression business provides stability through the cycle"
I said in my writeup: "Complemented by historical stability, fourth quarter Contract Operations revenue"

Frankly, I posted it publicly on purpose, but the fact that someone else might be "selling" the idea on Seeking Alpha does bug me. That site should not benefit from my original write-up by selling it to others.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2018, 10:10:56 AM by jmp8822 »

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Re: SeekingAlpha turns Evil
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2018, 10:54:14 AM »
After SA put the transcripts behind the paywall I signed up for BamSEC.  $35/mo or less if billed annually and they give you access to Thomson Reuters earnings and event transcripts.  Still learning my way around the other features but this is a really useful service, and the best value you can find at that price.

I like that site a lot too.  I didn't know about the transcripts.

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Re: SeekingAlpha turns Evil
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2018, 05:47:39 PM »
Just fyi, when I access from the app (mobile/tablet) it is like it used to be.

Your post got me thinking and I logged out of my account.  Interestingly, I can now view a number of articles without a paywall prompt.  For example if you google "Seekingalpha + ticker" you can go straight to an article without getting the prompt to create an account.

So maybe there are some workarounds.  I guess I just won't log in anymore - lol.

I've complained to the editors in the past about the plagiarism problem.  If they ordered articles based on comment recency (as happens on COBAF) it wouldn't be an issue.  As things are, the few good articles get buried in a sea of poor articles and never get re-promoted when anticipated price action materializes.  The cereal-box authors have learned to capitalize on this by stealing content from the older articles and re-publishing it shortly after price action occurs.
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Re: SeekingAlpha turns Evil
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2018, 07:08:10 AM »
Yea, I'm not gonna spend $75 a month for earnings transcripts. Most of the articles are crap.

The earnings transcripts are still available and donít disappear behind the paywall. That is the main thing that attracted me to the website in the place.

They are putting the transcripts behind the paywall as well, just not all of them all at once.
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Re: SeekingAlpha turns Evil
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2018, 09:21:29 AM »

I've complained to the editors in the past about the plagiarism problem.  If they ordered articles based on comment recency (as happens on COBAF) it wouldn't be an issue.  As things are, the few good articles get buried in a sea of poor articles and never get re-promoted when anticipated price action materializes.  The cereal-box authors have learned to capitalize on this by stealing content from the older articles and re-publishing it shortly after price action occurs.

Exactly.  Half of the articles are just copy and paste from the most recent conference call slide show or investor day presentation.  They literally copy and paste the graphics from the company presentation, and that is the majority of the article.