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Title: Well Run Banks
Post by: Og on January 08, 2018, 10:14:20 AM
This year I've decided to start learning more about the different banks out there. It's always been something I've mostly avoided. Does anyone have a good list of well run banks. Would love to start learning and also reading shareholder letters. Market cap size doesn't matter to me.
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: NeverLoseMoney on January 08, 2018, 10:30:56 AM
Trinity Bank (OTCMKTS:TYBT) seems like a well run, micro-cap bank. The CEO writes very informative letters as well.
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: cubsfan on January 08, 2018, 10:45:02 AM
Frost Bank in Texas (CFR) - quite disciplined. Avoided dumb lending during housing boom and same during energy boom and declines.

Republic First Bank (FRBK) - fascinating bank running the growth model of Commerce Bank. Fantastic service
and low cost deposit model. Vernon Hill is COB.

Metro Bank (MTRO:LN) - same as FRBK, except UK based.
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: Viking on January 08, 2018, 10:54:55 AM
Of the big US banks I think JPM is recognized as the best run. CEO Jamie Dimonís shareholders letters are recommended reading by Warren Buffett.
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: merkhet on January 08, 2018, 10:58:37 AM
M&T Bank under Bob Wilmers is a fantastic source of shareholder letters
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: LC on January 08, 2018, 11:14:55 AM
US bancorp
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: rb on January 08, 2018, 11:23:01 AM
TD in Canada, Wells and US Bank in the US, Lloyds in the UK, Santander in Europe/Lat Am. One of the Nordic banks is also really good but I can't remember which one at the moment.
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: LowIQinvestor on January 08, 2018, 12:58:28 PM
OFG Bancorp - OFG
trading at 50% of TBV
leading NIM
conservative mgmt & balance sheet
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: John Hjorth on January 08, 2018, 01:17:31 PM
TD in Canada, Wells and US Bank in the US, Lloyds in the UK, Santander in Europe/Lat Am. One of the Nordic banks is also really good but I can't remember which one at the moment.

I suppose that you are referring to Svenska Handelsbanken AB here, rb. [SHB A.STO & SHB B.STO]

There is written a book about it by Niels Kroner. CoBF topic here (http://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax.ca/forum/books/a-blueprint-for-better-banking-svenska-handelsbanken-niels-kroner/).
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: beerbaron on January 08, 2018, 05:12:16 PM
Southside Bankshares (SBSI) in the US is well run.

BeerBaron
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: rukawa on January 08, 2018, 05:25:54 PM
This year I've decided to start learning more about the different banks out there. It's always been something I've mostly avoided. Does anyone have a good list of well run banks. Would love to start learning and also reading shareholder letters. Market cap size doesn't matter to me.

Why not just keep avoiding it? Can anyone make a good case for investing in banks?
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: bookie71 on January 09, 2018, 08:34:50 AM
FBAK (First national Bank of Alaska) and NRIm (Northrim) are tow who have survived the up and down Alaska economy.
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: ourkid8 on January 09, 2018, 08:43:17 AM
Why would you select TD over RBC, is it because of their focus on retail banking?

TD in Canada, Wells and US Bank in the US, Lloyds in the UK, Santander in Europe/Lat Am. One of the Nordic banks is also really good but I can't remember which one at the moment.
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: Ulrich on January 09, 2018, 08:47:38 AM
A good and interesting Bank is Chesapeake Bank (Chesapeake Financial Shares).

It earned a return on equity north of 10 % last quarter. With a leverage ratio of 5,6 to 1.

The bank is interesting because they have a mix of 50/50 between interest income and non-intererst income.

They do wealth management and merchant card in a relative big way for their size (market cap 121mio $ ). Looks like a small bank with a great future. It s still trading for under 1,5* tangible book value and i m pretty sure they will do double digit returns on equity in the future. The CEO owns a big chunck of stock and i think Chesapeake has a very good line of  non interest income businesses to make it successful in the long term. The Bank is pretty old but build a pretty good local franchise over the last few years.

Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: rb on January 09, 2018, 10:20:11 AM
Why would you select TD over RBC, is it because of their focus on retail banking?

TD in Canada, Wells and US Bank in the US, Lloyds in the UK, Santander in Europe/Lat Am. One of the Nordic banks is also really good but I can't remember which one at the moment.
That's part of it yes.

But also TD is more focused and has better risk management. Until a couple of years ago they had a great CEO which didn't hurt either.

Generally you'll see all around the world that retail banks with good risk management tend to outperform.
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: Dazel on January 09, 2018, 11:49:32 AM



They will write books about what Moynihan did and is doing at Bank of America.
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: LC on January 09, 2018, 12:30:05 PM
Look at this another way: examine what banks were doing in 2005-2007.

Were they returning capital or growing their loans?
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: SharperDingaan on January 09, 2018, 01:54:09 PM
Why would you select TD over RBC, is it because of their focus on retail banking?

TD in Canada, Wells and US Bank in the US, Lloyds in the UK, Santander in Europe/Lat Am. One of the Nordic banks is also really good but I can't remember which one at the moment.
That's part of it yes.

But also TD is more focused and has better risk management. Until a couple of years ago they had a great CEO which didn't hurt either.

Generally you'll see all around the world that retail banks with good risk management tend to outperform.

.... Also because both TD and RBC are paid up partners of the R3 Consortium - with ownership access to the pipes of the blockchain based Corda ledger. They will not be doing anything 'stupid' under OSFIs oversight, and how they 'do'/'report' will give some insight as to how the technology will be implemented.

SD
 
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: bizaro86 on January 09, 2018, 02:43:52 PM
I have various dealings with all 5 big Canadian banks, and over time I seem to be migrating more and more of it to RBC. Mostly happens when one of the others screws something up, something that has gone smoothly in the past at RBC...
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: mhdousa on January 09, 2018, 05:02:18 PM
Not exactly what you're looking for, but our very own Oddballstocks has a new book out that might be helpful:
http://www.oddballstocks.com/2018/01/im-giving-away-all-of-my-bank-investing.html#comment-form
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: Junto on January 11, 2018, 05:33:30 AM
Best Shareholder Letters to read over time:

- Glacier Bancorp - Michael Blodnick (now retired)
- MidwestOne Bank
- Jamie Dimon (Both Chicago and JP Morgan Letters)
- Nicolet National Bank / Nicolet Bankshares, inc
- Frost Bank
- First Republic Bank
- Eagle Bank
- M&T Bank - the late Robert Wilmers

Are the banks that I have archived every letter over the past decade or more. All have done well.
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: Og on January 11, 2018, 06:25:12 AM
Not exactly what you're looking for, but our very own Oddballstocks has a new book out that might be helpful:
http://www.oddballstocks.com/2018/01/im-giving-away-all-of-my-bank-investing.html#comment-form

I'm aware. Just interviewed him on my podcast last night ;)
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: Philip Morris IV on January 11, 2018, 07:55:09 AM
Bank of Hawaii (BOH) has always stood out to me.  They consistently churn out great numbers -- even through the 2007-2010 period -- and trade at a significant book value premium to the sector and Hawaiian comps, at 2-3x BV (3x today).

Hawaii is unique for the US in that the Big Four (and all other mainland banks) are absent there.  The banking market is almost entirely controlled by BOH, First Hawaiian (FHB), Central Pacific (CPF) and American Savings (a subsidiary of Hawaiian Electric - HE).  It would appear this insulates them from mainland/asian competition, but of course their geography naturally limits growth.  This is very obvious on their 10yr financials and I believe reflected in their below-market earnings multiples.
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: matthylland on January 17, 2018, 05:39:36 PM
Towne bank (ticker TOWN) is a favorite of mine. I owned Monarch Bank (MNRK) for years, towne purchased them over a year ago and I have held on since much of Monarch's management stayed on. Conservatively ran (NPA around 0.2% if I remember right off the top of my head), great record of dividend increases, profitable through 08/09, and inherited a great mortgage business from Monarch. Company gets about 40-45% of revenue from non-interest sources currently, but should be lower if/when yield curve gets back to normal.

Ceo has a successful history with 2 other banks that were both purchased and gave shareholders great returns.

I know you make it to MKL shareholder meetings, this is just an extra hour and a half south and usually includes a good lunch and talks from management. I wouldn't say shareholder letters are anything amazing though.
$2 billion market cap.

Maybe obvious disclosure, but I own TOWN so every comment above is pretty biased!
Title: Re: Well Run Banks
Post by: nkp007 on January 17, 2018, 08:44:32 PM
WELLS FARGO (WFC)