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Re: FB - Facebook
« Reply #600 on: April 10, 2018, 06:37:51 PM »
Orrin Hatch: Now, Mr. Zuckerberg, I remember well your first visit to Capitol Hill back in 2010 ... You said back then that Facebook would always be free. Is that still your objective?

Zuckerberg: Senator, yes. There will always be a version of Facebook that is free ... We’re committed to doing that.

Hatch: Well, if so, how do you sustain a business model in which users don’t pay for your service?

Zuck: (Blinks.) Senator, we run ads. (Smirks.)

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https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/04/the-strangest-moments-from-the-zuckerberg-testimony/557672/

"Sen: Mr. Zuckerberg, suppose for a second your house was ransacked by thugs, your family was tied up in the basement with socks in their mouths, you try to open the door but there's too much blood on the knob

Z: What is your question?

Sen: My question is about privacy, sir"

https://twitter.com/RobynUrback/status/983800229886644225

"Senator: 'Is it or is it not true that Facebook uses deep unsupervised necromancy to alchemize poke data into consumer cloud big digitalia?'
Zuck: 'What now?'"

https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/983842359120084997
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Re: FB - Facebook
« Reply #601 on: April 11, 2018, 08:55:35 AM »
Instagram Looks Like Facebook’s Best Hope

With lawmakers and users on the warpath, the photo-sharing app could be Mark Zuckerberg’s way out of the latest data scandal.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-04-10/instagram-looks-like-facebook-s-best-hope

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Re: FB - Facebook
« Reply #602 on: April 11, 2018, 08:59:46 AM »
I wish someone would ask the elephant in the room.

Senator "I just want to confirm, even if you pretend to collect less data from users that you'll still be collecting and shipping the full amount to the CIA and NSA correct?"

Zuck "Yes.."
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Re: FB - Facebook
« Reply #603 on: April 11, 2018, 09:08:21 AM »
Senator:
You're walking in the woods.
There's no one around,
And your phone is dead.
Out of the corner of your eye you spot him...

Zuck: Shia Labeouf


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Re: FB - Facebook
« Reply #604 on: April 11, 2018, 09:35:25 AM »
Of course congress is too busy trying to understand the internets and how all this new fangled technology the young people are using these days works to ask the real questions about the real issues:

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Says He ‘Was Human’

‘I am not a lizard’: Mark Zuckerberg is latest celebrity asked about reptilian conspiracy  (isn't that exactly what a lizard would say?)

People Are Wondering If Mark Zuckerberg Is Actually A Robot

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Re: FB - Facebook
« Reply #605 on: April 11, 2018, 02:48:19 PM »
I like this example that Zuckerberg gave yesterday at the Senate hearing:
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ZUCKERBERG: So let's say you have — you're an app developer, and you — your goal is you want to get more people to install your app. You could bid in the ad system and say I will pay $3 anytime someone installs this app.

And then we basically calculate on — on our side which ads are going to be relevant for people, and we have an incentive to show people ads that are going to be relevant because we only get paid when it delivers a business result, and — and that's how the system works.

CAPITO: So it — it could be one — you could be paid for the advertisement. I mean for the sale.

ZUCKERBERG: We — we get paid when the action of the advertiser wants to — to happen, happens.


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Re: FB - Facebook
« Reply #606 on: April 14, 2018, 08:57:13 AM »
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Re: FB - Facebook
« Reply #607 on: April 16, 2018, 07:30:52 AM »
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Re: FB - Facebook
« Reply #608 on: April 16, 2018, 08:10:14 AM »

And this, thoughtful essay from an early insider / investor in FB

https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/january-february-march-2018/how-to-fix-facebook-before-it-fixes-us/

This is a really good article.

Hope some of the recommendations are put into practice. The two below would be a good starting point to promote greater competition:

Second, the platforms should not be allowed to make any acquisitions until they have addressed the damage caused to date, taken steps to prevent harm in the future, and demonstrated that such acquisitions will not result in diminished competition.

Seventh, consumers, not the platforms, should own their own data. In the case of Facebook, this includes posts, friends, and events—in short, the entire social graph. Users created this data, so they should have the right to export it to other social networks.


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Re: FB - Facebook
« Reply #609 on: April 16, 2018, 09:11:18 AM »
Seventh, consumers, not the platforms, should own their own data. In the case of Facebook, this includes posts, friends, and events—in short, the entire social graph. Users created this data, so they should have the right to export it to other social networks. [/i]

This may be well intentioned but really meaningless.

Show me a single social network or forum or whatever that allows you to export your data (ah, btw Facebook does allow you to export your data haha 8)) in a way that is then importable somewhere else and it just works... Right. Crickets.

People who write these articles probably think that if they write it, someone will just magically do what they suggest and world will be a better place (TM). In reality, the "magically" part is really really hard. And unless there's a huge strong push by a visionary team, none of it is going to happen. Especially when suggestions require interoperability, portability, etc.

Edit: homework assignment for the talented people everywhere: if I export my data from CoBF, which clearly refers to other people in CoBF, their posts, threads, etc., how exactly this can be imported into some-CoBF-clone-forum-social-network without losing most of its meaning? Bonus question: how do you preserve context without violating rights of others?
Edit2: I forgot: the solution is to put everything on blockchain. There.  8)  ::)  ;D

Color me skeptical.  8)

But I am all for world peace, rainbow unicorns, and users owning their data.
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