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« Reply #1820 on: December 13, 2017, 12:14:05 PM »
This isn't good: https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/12/07/california-fires-navigation-apps-like-waze-sent-commuters-into-flames-drivers/930904001/

This isn't good. But it's also a news story that will happen with any natural disaster and any navigation app/device. The journalist disses Waze, but Waze can be adjusted faster than dedicated nav devices like Garmin (remember these?). I somewhat doubt that majority of car-integrated nav apps were adjusted to avoid fire-closed streets either (if they are updated/updatable at all).

Edit: BTW, I'm pretty sure there were also situations where Waze redirected traffic in good ways away from fire and standstill traffic. Just not in that article...

Last winter some routes to Tahoe were closed due to mudslides.  Google maps noted the closure and gave an alternate that was much longer but the only realistic route.  Apple, on the other hand, redirected to a road that I knew was closed and covered with snow!  People have literally died following navigation apps on such routes in the winter.

So I guess Google could do better, but they're still better than Apple...


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« Reply #1821 on: December 13, 2017, 12:28:24 PM »
This isn't good: https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/12/07/california-fires-navigation-apps-like-waze-sent-commuters-into-flames-drivers/930904001/

This isn't good. But it's also a news story that will happen with any natural disaster and any navigation app/device. The journalist disses Waze, but Waze can be adjusted faster than dedicated nav devices like Garmin (remember these?). I somewhat doubt that majority of car-integrated nav apps were adjusted to avoid fire-closed streets either (if they are updated/updatable at all).

Edit: BTW, I'm pretty sure there were also situations where Waze redirected traffic in good ways away from fire and standstill traffic. Just not in that article...

Last winter some routes to Tahoe were closed due to mudslides.  Google maps noted the closure and gave an alternate that was much longer but the only realistic route.  Apple, on the other hand, redirected to a road that I knew was closed and covered with snow!  People have literally died following navigation apps on such routes in the winter.

So I guess Google could do better, but they're still better than Apple...


Speaking of Waze (which I love) I noticed today that Waze now has a feature that allows you to ask random strangers (any other Waze users in your area) for help.
I'm sure this is usually OK and safe, but I can imagine that there will eventually be that one in a million incident where someone gets raped/mugged/carjacked/kidnapped/murdered/etc....

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« Reply #1822 on: December 20, 2017, 06:15:24 AM »
Neat piece, goes into the machine vision used by Google Maps to add buildings:

https://www.justinobeirne.com/google-maps-moat
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« Reply #1823 on: December 21, 2017, 02:00:08 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/21/eric-schmidt-is-stepping-down-as-the-executive-chairman-of-alphabet.html

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Eric Schmidt will be stepping down as the executive chairman of Alphabet's board of directors and transitioning to technical advisor, the company announced. He will continue to serve on the company's board.

Schmidt first joined Google as CEO in 2001, back when the company only had several hundred employees, and become its executive chairman 10 years later. He maintained that role when Google restructured to become Alphabet in 2015.

"Larry, Sergey, Sundar and I all believe that the time is right in Alphabet's evolution for this transition," Schmidt said in a statement. The Alphabet structure is working well, and Google and the Other Bets are thriving. In recent years, I've been spending a lot of my time on science and technology issues, and philanthropy, and I plan to expand that work."
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« Reply #1824 on: December 22, 2017, 09:30:04 AM »
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« Reply #1825 on: December 31, 2017, 06:31:22 AM »
I finally got around to reading the Google maps moat piece. Wow. Great write up and the compounding amount of data that Google has is simply jaw dropping. No one that I know of thought Google Street view would be anything more than simply a quirky thing to use with Google maps. Most likely Google did not just stumble upon this finding and how all of their data can be used... It is amazing how innovative and forward looking they are

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« Reply #1826 on: December 31, 2017, 02:23:11 PM »
Liberty, I really appreciate these links. The Google Maps Moat and the FatTailCapital EU report snippets are excellent.


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« Reply #1827 on: January 01, 2018, 08:53:56 AM »
That Google Maps moat write-up really is amazing. I've only used Apple Maps a couple times because the UX sucks, but I never realized how far ahead of the competition Google Maps was. Hard to beat the lead they have in data.
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« Reply #1828 on: January 01, 2018, 10:19:31 AM »
Liberty, I really appreciate these links. The Google Maps Moat and the FatTailCapital EU report snippets are excellent.


Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the feedback.
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« Reply #1829 on: January 02, 2018, 09:23:09 AM »
That Google Maps moat write-up really is amazing. I've only used Apple Maps a couple times because the UX sucks, but I never realized how far ahead of the competition Google Maps was. Hard to beat the lead they have in data.

I wonder what it means for Apple, where and how Apple might improve, and how (isn't) Apple is investing/innovating in that area.  I use Apple Maps almost exclusively on the phone, but a lot of it is because it works and I don't want to learn the interface for Google Maps.