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« Reply #1970 on: February 18, 2019, 10:16:28 PM »
- I would easily pay $5k for the hardware and $25-50 per month if it meant I could text and drive most of the way to the office and back. 

Probably exactly why they donít do it. Youíre not much use as a safety backup unless youíre concentrating. Accident rates would rise, caused by humans overestimating the system and not concentrating but inevitably blamed on Waymo, and the brand image of autonomous driving as a whole would suffer.


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« Reply #1971 on: February 19, 2019, 01:13:51 AM »
- I would easily pay $5k for the hardware and $25-50 per month if it meant I could text and drive most of the way to the office and back. 

Probably exactly why they don’t do it. You’re not much use as a safety backup unless you’re concentrating. Accident rates would rise, caused by humans overestimating the system and not concentrating but inevitably blamed on Waymo, and the brand image of autonomous driving as a whole would suffer.

That and I don't think any company has managed to build a driving system that adapts to your specific car's make/model. The integration of the software with the OEM car "hardware" has to run deep with functional redundancy etc (think airplanes).
Also by the way the cost per Waymo car is somewhere between 100k and 250k.
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« Reply #1972 on: February 19, 2019, 01:25:41 PM »
- I would easily pay $5k for the hardware and $25-50 per month if it meant I could text and drive most of the way to the office and back. 

Probably exactly why they donít do it. Youíre not much use as a safety backup unless youíre concentrating. Accident rates would rise, caused by humans overestimating the system and not concentrating but inevitably blamed on Waymo, and the brand image of autonomous driving as a whole would suffer.

I disagree with this.

You are not a safety backup. You are the unexpected situations backup. I.e. if the car cannot read the road in snowstorm, it stops (or otherwise safely hands over) and requires you to drive. If there is a policeperson directing traffic around a herd of cows on the road, the car hands over and requires you to drive. If bad people (TM) try to troll your car by surrounding it and not moving, you are there to call the police or press on gas and run them over. Also you can take over anytime you think the self driving car is making subpar (though possibly very safe) decisions.

Yes, this requires more than Tesla Autopilot (L2.5?). It requires L4ish. But is solves the issue of selling self driving cars before reaching L5.
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« Reply #1973 on: February 26, 2019, 08:25:04 AM »
Pretty cool. Using ML to optimize wind farm output:

https://deepmind.com/blog/machine-learning-can-boost-value-wind-energy/

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« Reply #1974 on: March 06, 2019, 06:16:02 AM »
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-06/waymo-starts-selling-sensors-to-lower-cost-of-self-driving-cars

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Waymo is set on Wednesday to begin selling the laser-mapping sensors used on its driverless vehicles to other companiesóas long as the customers donít compete with its core robotaxi business.
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Re: GOOGL - Google
« Reply #1975 on: March 12, 2019, 09:43:12 AM »
This could go into multiple threads (AMZN, FB, AAPL) but I'll put it here:

https://stratechery.com/2019/where-warrens-wrong/

Ben Thompson on Elizabeth Warren's plan to break up big tech.

If you're a subscriber, there's a follow-up here:

https://stratechery.com/2019/where-warrens-wrong-follow-up-amazons-price-parity-provision-the-amazon-marketplace-question/

Update: Also, a Steven Sinofsky thread that is related:

https://twitter.com/stevesi/status/1105546034996899840
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« Reply #1976 on: March 19, 2019, 10:50:50 AM »
Google Stream Announcement - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUih5C5rOrA

As a summary, you can play brand new games hosted entirely with Google and without a costly gaming computer or console.

Not sure if this moves the needle for Google, but having used Stream to play a graphically intense AAA title on an old laptop through Chrome, I'm excited to see how it evolves (streaming, dev platform, gaming marketplace).

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« Reply #1977 on: March 19, 2019, 01:53:10 PM »
Wired piece on the Stadia announcement:

https://wired.trib.al/AyWYNtB

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« Reply #1978 on: March 19, 2019, 03:27:58 PM »
It is a very nascent idea. Economist did a good write up on this couple months back https://amp.economist.com/business/2019/02/02/netflix-but-for-video-games
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« Reply #1979 on: March 20, 2019, 12:07:11 AM »

I don't really get why people are so worried about the latency. The Game/Agent would  "know" the exact latency for each player throughout the game and it is the game that controls the output to each player.  So, if there's a game for 100 it would be so easy to adjust output according to latencies, and it could fluctuate. Like, in a multi-player if in a specific conflict 4 players are involved, simply adjust the output to balance latencies.  The outcome would be far better than what we got now, the only guys who would care are those sitting on 15k worth of specialized gear and broadband (and all those hardware companies).  Of course, all this GPU/AI hardware power can be used for other means as well.
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