Bob Woodward looks inside the White House...

[rb]

If it’s indeed mike pence who wrote it, then maybe GOPs are scheming to get pence to replace trump. Impeachment is coming.

Personally, I doubt it. Pence is just as bad on the fiscal side and even worse socially.

I find the impeachment talk hilarious. Donald Trump is not gonna get impeached. Almost nobody wants to impeach Donald Trump. The Republicans don't, the Democrats don't. Ironically, in relation to this post, Mike Pence is probably the only guy in Washington that probably wants Trump impeached.

[Gregmal]

https://nypost.com/2018/09/05/trump-demands-ny-times-reveal-identity-of-anonymous-official/

I'd wager they won't, must likely because the source is not real.

Revealing the source would basically put the newspaper out of business.

First off, I think citing anonymous sources should be illegal. It's basically grounds to make things up or let cowards run amok. Second, if NYT went out of business, would anyone besides Dougie or Liberty really care?

[Liberty]

LOL I hope the same thing happens to companies you guys invest in. Tesla maybe? Rogue employees, (let alone cowardly anonymous ones whom pen letters bragging about it), purposely sabotaging their employer is not something worthy of praise.

People pledge allegiance to the US and the constitution, not to Trump. I certainly hope that there are antibodies in the system against incompetents and amoral authoritarians.

And if I ever invest in a company that is run by an idiot and a con man, I hope he'll get removed and replaced as fast as possible, because he can't be good for any business.

[Liberty]

First off, I think citing anonymous sources should be illegal. It's basically grounds to make things up or let cowards run amok. Second, if NYT went out of business, would anyone besides Dougie or Liberty really care?

What's your real name, Gregmal?

[Gregmal]

First off, I think citing anonymous sources should be illegal. It's basically grounds to make things up or let cowards run amok. Second, if NYT went out of business, would anyone besides Dougie or Liberty really care?

What's your real name, Gregmal?

As a matter of fact, yes. The other thing I'll point out, again, taking a giant leap and assuming the NYT story is real, is that in any other position, all this thing is, is basically an employee bitching and moaning about their boss. Nothing more to it. Because it feeds the liberal hate machine, and is anti Trump, it's somehow something different and front page worthy. Logically that is odd.

[LC]

As a matter of fact, yes. The other thing I'll point out, again, taking a giant leap and assuming the NYT story is real, is that in any other position, all this thing is, is basically an employee bitching and moaning about their boss. Nothing more to it. Because it feeds the liberal hate machine, and is anti Trump, it's somehow something different and front page worthy. Logically that is odd.

Yea but...this is the President, not Joe Schmoe's plumbing and supplies.

[Viking]

I would never invest in a company run by Trump (or someone in his mirror image). The Woodward book and the Time Op Ed are simply data points to help inform. (I did not say they were perfect data points.) With the fullness of time it is possible to construct a pretty accurate picture of what is going on.

I think Trump is underappreciated for what he is accomlishing from an economic standpoint. Tax cut. Deregulation. Trade deals are getting renegotiated in months (not decades which would be what normally happens). Does this mean i like the man? No.

As i have said before, the mid term elections are going to be key. If the Democtrats get control of the House we will be entering a brand new world politically speaking in the US. If the Republicans maintain control of both houses then i My guess is we get more of the same (last 2 years).

[LC]

I think Trump is underappreciated for what he is accomlishing from an economic standpoint. Tax cut. Deregulation. Trade deals are getting renegotiated in months (not decades which would be what normally happens).

Jury is out on the trade renegotiations but both the tax cut and deregulation looks pretty bad to me. What about them do you like?

[Liberty]

First off, I think citing anonymous sources should be illegal. It's basically grounds to make things up or let cowards run amok. Second, if NYT went out of business, would anyone besides Dougie or Liberty really care?

What's your real name, Gregmal?

As a matter of fact, yes. The other thing I'll point out, again, taking a giant leap and assuming the NYT story is real, is that in any other position, all this thing is, is basically an employee bitching and moaning about their boss. Nothing more to it. Because it feeds the liberal hate machine, and is anti Trump, it's somehow something different and front page worthy. Logically that is odd.

Anything positive for Trump matters, anything negative doesn't and gets brushed off. When Trump quotes random talking heads on Fox News and retweets random twitter accounts praising him, or cites "sources" about Obama's birth certificates or amplifies random conspiracy theories (including as a guest on Alex Jones' show), that's fine, but when experienced and qualified journalists with decades of experience cite multiple sources (that their editors have vetted, putting their careers on the line if it someday turns out they made things up), now the standard is really high and only names will do. That's basically your mental algorithm, it seems. Maybe look at what is being said and judge it on its merit, look at how many times it has been said, and by how many people, named or anonymous, people who have worked closely with him and are ideologically aligned and really tried (almost his whole original cabinet that is now gone and many of their replacements), over how many years and decades, and include that in your model of what Trump must be like, and then ask yourself if he should be chief executive of anything at all, last of all the world's biggest nuclear power. When almost everybody who comes into contact with someone agrees, chances are, there's a real issue and it's not all made up.

Anyway. You've been conned. Trump doesn't care about any of your ideals and policy positions, he only cares about Trump, and about telling people what they want to hear so he can have fame and power.

[Gregmal]

First off, I think citing anonymous sources should be illegal. It's basically grounds to make things up or let cowards run amok. Second, if NYT went out of business, would anyone besides Dougie or Liberty really care?

What's your real name, Gregmal?

As a matter of fact, yes. The other thing I'll point out, again, taking a giant leap and assuming the NYT story is real, is that in any other position, all this thing is, is basically an employee bitching and moaning about their boss. Nothing more to it. Because it feeds the liberal hate machine, and is anti Trump, it's somehow something different and front page worthy. Logically that is odd.

Anything positive for Trump matters, anything negative doesn't and gets brushed off. When Trump quotes random talking heads on Fox News and retweets random twitter accounts praising him, or cites "sources" about Obama's birth certificates or amplifies random conspiracy theories (including as a guest on Alex Jones' show), that's fine, but when experienced and qualified journalists with decades of experience cite multiple sources (that their editors have vetted, putting their careers on the line if it someday turns out they made things up), now the standard is really high and only names will do. That's basically your mental algorithm, it seems. Maybe look at what is being said and judge it on its merit, look at how many times it has been said, and by how many people, named or anonymous, people who have worked closely with him and are ideologically aligned and really tried (almost his whole original cabinet that is now gone and many of their replacements), over how many years and decades, and include that in your model of what Trump must be like, and then ask yourself if he should be chief executive of anything at all, last of all the world's biggest nuclear power. When almost everybody who comes into contact with someone agrees, chances are, there's a real issue and it's not all made up.

Anyway. You've been conned. Trump doesn't care about any of your ideals and policy positions, he only cares about Trump, and about telling people what they want to hear so he can have fame and power.

I really don't care about the bulk of the things you mentioned. I spent zero time or gave zero credibility to the Obama birth certificate issue. I treat it the same as some fabricated letter supposedly from a guy bitching about his boss or any of the tabloid nonsense that gets all you guys so excited. I don't care to count "how many times something is being said", because it's pushed hard by the same corrupt folks with an obvious agenda, and ultimately isn't anything a I give a shit about. He was elected to be President, by the same system the has elected all of our presidents, are you really naive or arrogant enough to think asking yourself or others " if he should be chief executive of anything at all, last of all the world's biggest nuclear power. " holds any weight that is more relevant than that??

And I'm not sure what I've been conned about. I know exactly what I voted for, given the choices, and I think the only thing that is evident is that the people crying about ethics and playing the moral higher ground cards are obvious liars and hypocrites IF they voted for Hillary Clinton. Which ironically puts them in the same boat as both Trump and Clinton.