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Border patrol detention centers
« on: June 17, 2018, 09:58:27 PM »
Haven't seen this topic come up yet.

https://www.apnews.com/9794de32d39d4c6f89fbefaea3780769

More than 1,100 people were inside the large, dark facility thatís divided into separate wings for unaccompanied children, adults on their own, and mothers and fathers with children. The cages in each wing open out into common areas to use portable restrooms. The overhead lighting in the warehouse stays on around the clock.


Fuck this shallow jingoism. A comment I saw put it well: Not one single other "civilized" country cages up the children of people who are fleeing persecution and forces other children to care for them as their parents or guardians are dragged away screaming.
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Re: Border patrol detention centers
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2018, 10:19:35 PM »
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Re: Border patrol detention centers
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2018, 04:10:45 AM »
Haven't seen this topic come up yet.

https://www.apnews.com/9794de32d39d4c6f89fbefaea3780769

More than 1,100 people were inside the large, dark facility thatís divided into separate wings for unaccompanied children, adults on their own, and mothers and fathers with children. The cages in each wing open out into common areas to use portable restrooms. The overhead lighting in the warehouse stays on around the clock.


Fuck this shallow jingoism. A comment I saw put it well: Not one single other "civilized" country cages up the children of people who are fleeing persecution and forces other children to care for them as their parents or guardians are dragged away screaming.

Sounds like a concentration camp to me.

« Last Edit: June 18, 2018, 07:38:09 AM by Spekulatius »
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Re: Border patrol detention centers
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2018, 07:18:39 AM »
Like Fannie and Freddie, Trump has the ability 100% to end it this hour.

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Re: Border patrol detention centers
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2018, 12:41:54 PM »
Haven't seen this topic come up yet.

https://www.apnews.com/9794de32d39d4c6f89fbefaea3780769

More than 1,100 people were inside the large, dark facility thatís divided into separate wings for unaccompanied children, adults on their own, and mothers and fathers with children. The cages in each wing open out into common areas to use portable restrooms. The overhead lighting in the warehouse stays on around the clock.


Fuck this shallow jingoism. A comment I saw put it well: Not one single other "civilized" country cages up the children of people who are fleeing persecution and forces other children to care for them as their parents or guardians are dragged away screaming.

I would agree with that.  But when the President of that "civilized country" qualifies the citizens of the other country as "murderers, rapists and criminals", I don't think you can expect empathy or humanity to prevail. 

The policy is what it is...whether right or wrong...they are fixing a systemic problem that had gone on too long and so the sheer size of the problem is overwhelming.  But this is where the Trump children, if they really, really wanted to make a difference, especially with Ivanka and Melania talking about how this issue could be resolved, they could show a bit of humanity and go to some of these facilities and see how things could be improved in the process.  But unfortunately, their father is using the cruel tactics as a ploy to get Democrats to bend...via compassion or pressure from society...so it is what it is, and half of the U.S. is ok with it, while the other half cries out.  Cheers!
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Re: Border patrol detention centers
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2018, 01:08:40 PM »
Welcome to the republican party - every time a wrenching mother/child clip shows up on the media.
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Re: Border patrol detention centers
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2018, 01:31:57 PM »
When a country's solution to it's big problem involves using concentration camps then something seriously went seriously wrong with said country. History will not look down kindly on these people. 

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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2018, 02:16:50 PM »
"When a country's solution to it's big problem involves using concentration camps then something seriously went seriously wrong with said country. History will not look down kindly on these people."

"...everyone detained is given adequate food, access to showers and laundered clothes, and medical care. People are supposed to move through the facility quickly. Under U.S. law, children are required to be turned over within three days to shelters funded by the Department of Health and Human Services."

Ok. History did not look too bad on Roosevelt for caging Japanese Americans for years because they were simply from Japanese origin. Why?

Oh yes, he was a Democrat!!! Not a racist or bigot. Never would these words be side by side with the name Roosevelt.

I am sure that all the people having spoken on this thread so far would prefer for these people to be left homeless, food less and with no running water sitting and sleeping in the streets of San Diego or in some border town in Texas?

I wonder how that facility or similar facilities were run during Obama? Never mind. We will never find out. Everything was rosy!

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Re: Border patrol detention centers
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2018, 02:25:26 PM »
"When a country's solution to it's big problem involves using concentration camps then something seriously went seriously wrong with said country. History will not look down kindly on these people."

"...everyone detained is given adequate food, access to showers and laundered clothes, and medical care. People are supposed to move through the facility quickly. Under U.S. law, children are required to be turned over within three days to shelters funded by the Department of Health and Human Services."

Ok. History did not look too bad on Roosevelt for caging Japanese Americans for years because they were simply from Japanese origin. Why?

Oh yes, he was a Democrat!!! Not a racist or bigot. Never would these words be side by side with the name Roosevelt.

I am sure that all the people having spoken on this thread so far would prefer for these people to be left homeless, food less and with no running water sitting and sleeping in the streets of San Diego or in some border town in Texas?

I wonder how that facility or similar facilities were run during Obama? Never mind. We will never find out. Everything was rosy!

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Why is the Republican/Conservative answer to issues with Donald Trump's behaviour always about looking at past administrations?  Cardboard, is it so difficult to look at a situation independently, and come to a conclusion that it could be done better?

If Donald Trump was standing on top the Empire State building jacking off, would the Republican response be:  Well Obama did it!  Clinton was doing it in the Oval Office!

Would that be a rational response?  Cheers!
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2018, 03:02:44 PM »
No, it is not difficult at all for me to say that there is always room for improvement, in anything.

However, you people (the left or anti-Trump) have lost any sense of critical thinking in whatever is brought to you by the media.

It is 100% about demonizing the man and that is what I am upset about and that includes some of your comments Sanjeev about bigot and racism which I find highly unfair.

What did these people leave? Murder, rape, gang violence, poverty in their respective country. Travelled 100's of miles in terrible conditions. Now they are being fed, can sleep, are protected.

Now, some of the childrens are separated temporarily from their parents for hours, a few days, maybe even weeks because of another government lead system fiasco and that is the biggest trauma ever they have ever faced? Trump is Hitler?

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