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Re: Donald Trump Is The Most Honest US President Of All Time
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2019, 07:22:59 PM »
This article fails to recognize the impact social media has had on politics. Take our current media outlets, social media platforms, memes, and every other obscure way people are exposed to information. Then apply that to any past Presidency and I guarantee we would have a similar cultural and political climate. This is why Obama's Presidency seemed to become more and more divisive the longer it went on. His second term was undoubtedly more hostile. This all correlates with smart phone adoption and the rapid expansion of social media.

Trump isn't the most honest President we've ever had. He's simply the first asshole to step in the newly built arena.

The period we are living in reminds me a bit on the period prior to the turn of the 19th century, pre WW1. At that time, mass media and propaganda were really developed, as well as fake news. it was newspapers and the occasional pictures then. the leaders back then lived in a totally outdated world (18th venture). Look at the pic of Trump in this article and compare it to a picture from Kaiser Wilhelm II - they will look most alike. Just a coincidence maybe.

Then there is the fact that Trump, as well as the currently leading democratic candidates are all way past 70 years old.   Canít believe it, these guys should all be retired by now. Maybe our generation is truly messed up to vote for these folks. Can the millennials please come forward and bring forward a reasonable candidate in his forties and put the cart in a  different direction? I know it sounds desperate to hope for the millennials to make things better, but they where we are at.

Those reasonable candidates are around, they just canít win the shouting matches that currently determine the outcomes.

Every cycle about this time some reasonable guy comes forward with what sounds like a pretty good plan, and no one pays any attention to him at all.  It's an american tradition.  This year it's Andrew Yang.

I found Andrew Young quite personable in this townhall meeting I attended, but his MATH doesnít add up. I would like to challenge him to provide a reasonable budget and see how it might work. I would bet that it would not.
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Re: Donald Trump Is The Most Honest US President Of All Time
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2019, 08:54:38 AM »
This article fails to recognize the impact social media has had on politics. Take our current media outlets, social media platforms, memes, and every other obscure way people are exposed to information. Then apply that to any past Presidency and I guarantee we would have a similar cultural and political climate. This is why Obama's Presidency seemed to become more and more divisive the longer it went on. His second term was undoubtedly more hostile. This all correlates with smart phone adoption and the rapid expansion of social media.

Trump isn't the most honest President we've ever had. He's simply the first asshole to step in the newly built arena.

The period we are living in reminds me a bit on the period prior to the turn of the 19th century, pre WW1. At that time, mass media and propaganda were really developed, as well as fake news. it was newspapers and the occasional pictures then. the leaders back then lived in a totally outdated world (18th venture). Look at the pic of Trump in this article and compare it to a picture from Kaiser Wilhelm II - they will look most alike. Just a coincidence maybe.

Then there is the fact that Trump, as well as the currently leading democratic candidates are all way past 70 years old.   Canít believe it, these guys should all be retired by now. Maybe our generation is truly messed up to vote for these folks. Can the millennials please come forward and bring forward a reasonable candidate in his forties and put the cart in a  different direction? I know it sounds desperate to hope for the millennials to make things better, but they where we are at.

Those reasonable candidates are around, they just canít win the shouting matches that currently determine the outcomes.

Every cycle about this time some reasonable guy comes forward with what sounds like a pretty good plan, and no one pays any attention to him at all.  It's an american tradition.  This year it's Andrew Yang.

I found Andrew Young quite personable in this townhall meeting I attended, but his MATH doesnít add up. I would like to challenge him to provide a reasonable budget and see how it might work. I would bet that it would not.

One main issue is the policy itself. The people who need help the most will not be given money through UBI. His policy specifically states that UBI will exclude those who already are being given government aid by either giving them a reduced sum or none at all. It's a wealth redistribution for the middle class, which is idiotic. He also like to claim Alaska has been doing this same thing for 37 years...which is complete bull. Alaska does pay royalty rights based on oil and gas production. But the amount people receive and why they receive money in the first place and where the money comes from is completely different.

This is a feel good policy that wont actually do anything good. Here is a better solution. Reduce govt spending and size then abolish income tax (which is unconstitutional).

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Re: Donald Trump Is The Most Honest US President Of All Time
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2019, 09:48:34 AM »
The 16th amendment makes it constitutional?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Yeah, that needs repealing.   #MakeTheIncomeTaxUnconstitutionalAgain

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Re: Donald Trump Is The Most Honest US President Of All Time
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2019, 10:46:10 AM »
The 16th amendment makes it constitutional?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Yeah, that needs repealing.   #MakeTheIncomeTaxUnconstitutionalAgain
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It was already ruled unconstitutional during the civil war due to no authority. But the 16th amendment was created as a tool to artificially create authority. Not to mention its carried out as a direct tax when it's supposed to be apportioned to the states.

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Re: Donald Trump Is The Most Honest US President Of All Time
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2019, 11:39:22 AM »
The 16th amendment makes it constitutional?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Yeah, that needs repealing.   #MakeTheIncomeTaxUnconstitutionalAgain
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It was already ruled unconstitutional during the civil war due to no authority. But the 16th amendment was created as a tool to artificially create authority. Not to mention its carried out as a direct tax when it's supposed to be apportioned to the states.

It was ruled unconstitutional during the civil war because there was no authority for it.  So they amended the constitution in 1913 to give it the authority.   You can (unfortunately) amend the constitution to give the federal government a new power that it didn't have before, like when they passed the 18th amendment to give the feds the power to ban alcohol.  Funny how they never gave the feds the power to ban/regulate drugs?  Which is why constitutionality doesn't matter anymore anyway, because the FedGov has been ignoring the constitution completely for so long now that they pretty much just do whatever they want regardless.

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Re: Donald Trump Is The Most Honest US President Of All Time
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2019, 01:52:05 PM »
So Trump is likely the least filtered president ever, so I get why people like him.  You know whats on his mind at all times because he lets you know it.  However he probably still will screw you over, he just lacks the executive function to not admit it before he goes through with it.  Also didnt read the article. 

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Re: Donald Trump Is The Most Honest US President Of All Time
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2019, 09:44:37 AM »
I'll put this in another way. Trump exposes the dishonesty & immorality of people around him.

1) Clinton's corruption
2) Conservatives/Republicans lack of social/family values, norms, turning blind eye towards deficits, etc
3) Media's dishonesty - becoming more paparazzi like and less focus on concerns of people
4) Senate's abandonment of US constitution (Supporting an American traitor in the highest office), attack on law & order, etc. He has proved that R's will bury the constitution to remain in power.
5) R Women voters of supporting a misogynist
6) Politicians (both parties) screwing American workforce by not punishing China & others for trade violations, theft etc.