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Cigarbutt

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2018, 10:23:32 AM »
The best explanation of the nonsense that goes on in this country is explained by this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkxQc9Ht7QU

Otherwise I can't explain it.
Thanks cubsfan. I always learn from your unique contributions.

As a background check, did some research on the Steamboat Institute. They have sound principles. And some of their previous conference speakers are from the Cheney family (Dick and others).

In the ever rising distance in the bimodal right and left distribution, I always try to look for balancing evidence and have a feeling that the following movie will be enlightening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO3GsRQO0dM

Watching the video you submitted, I came away with two thoughts and perhaps a realization for the need of more common grounds.
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cubsfan

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2018, 01:08:15 PM »
Thanks Cigarbutt - I consider it a real complement coming from you.

I am going to catch that movie - I can't believe that is Christian Bale - incredible!

BTW - Victor David Hanson is really worth studying. I always loved Charles Krauthammer - someone who could cut through
all the politics and get to real meaning of what is going on. I really miss Charles, what a loss.

Anyway - VDH is my new Krauthammer - a really great mind.

Start at 3:20 minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXJi9-1SUs&t=11s

Easy enough to watch in sections.

investor-man

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2018, 02:07:07 PM »
And having been a women in the military...

Amazing to me how little is spent on understanding one's ability to deliver for people voting for them.

I have worked with great people and also really bad people. However, I could not identify any correlation related to gender, race or religion. Sense of ownership, leadership, good work ethics, proper values have nothing to do with what the left is trying to point out.

A normal distribution was really what stood out to me.

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The best explanation of the nonsense that goes on in this country is explained by this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkxQc9Ht7QU

Otherwise I can't explain it.

This is what confounds me about Trump supporters. I mostly agree with what the guy in your video said, and in fact I'll one-up you with one of my favs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4

But Trump only parrots these words. His actions are not aligned.

Yes he cut taxes, but he didn't cut any spending and he's imposed tariffs, which are taxes. And since he didn't cut spending, we're piling up debt, which will ultimately lead to inflation, which is yet another tax. I don't know what the Trump supporter's defense is to this - and let me remind you that his economic advisor quit over the stupidity of this policy.

What about individual liberties? He's strong on gun control, but what about the LGBT community? He's just absolutely hanging them out to dry on the freedoms that they've managed to gain. Trump supporters are good with this. Why? Family values? Do we even need to go into family values and Trump? It's nonsense.

Comparative advantage - his immigration policy is preposterous. Set aside low-wage/border policy for a moment. He wants to cut and restrict h1b visas across the board. I work in the software industry. We DESPERATELY need foreign workers to maintain our competitive advantage because there are simply not enough Americans graduating with computer science degrees. He wants to stop this. He, like all other sh*tty politicians, needs to stay the f*ck out of it, because he doesn't know what he's doing. And what he's done and is doing on the border is sickening and dumb. How many legit people do you know in this 3.5% unemployment-rate-economy that pick fruit for a living? We need people to come do that. Americans are not doing it. I'm all for setting up a secure and sensible process for that, but please be real about it. We need it. Americans won't do it unless it pays A LOT more, which would just translate into increased prices, etc.

On top of all of that he's shady and awful. Many of the closest people to him are bonafide criminals. The likelihood that he too is a criminal seems pretty high. From his actions, it's crystal clear that he's in Putin's pocket. It's endangering the security of our nation and our allies, and if you've been paying attention you should have seen by now that both Trump and Putin are taking this to the level of nuclear bombs. Putin wants to make more bombs, and Trump is enabling it. But ya know - own the libz, I guess.

We're not so different in ideology. Perhaps I just hate politicians so much that I will not align myself with any of them? Now I'm rambling. I'm glad there is now a check on Trump. I am all about Liberty and Freedom, but this President is not, and if we continue in this direction our country will look more and more like Russia, a corrupt kleptocracy.
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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2018, 02:27:03 PM »
Anyway - VDH is my new Krauthammer - a really great mind.

Start at 3:20 minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXJi9-1SUs&t=11s

Easy enough to watch in sections.
I tried but sorry when he pulled some story out of his @ss about his developer friend confirming that Trump talks to cement workers on his RE developments, and when people see him on the street they cheer and clap, it's just a boldfaced lie.

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2018, 02:30:53 PM »
Anyway - VDH is my new Krauthammer - a really great mind.

Start at 3:20 minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXJi9-1SUs&t=11s

Easy enough to watch in sections.
I tried but sorry when he pulled some story out of his @ss about his developer friend confirming that Trump talks to cement workers on his RE developments, and when people see him on the street they cheer and clap, it's just a boldfaced lie.

Sure, I understand. You hate Trump, so your mind is made up. No problem.

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2018, 02:45:09 PM »
And having been a women in the military...

Amazing to me how little is spent on understanding one's ability to deliver for people voting for them.

I have worked with great people and also really bad people. However, I could not identify any correlation related to gender, race or religion. Sense of ownership, leadership, good work ethics, proper values have nothing to do with what the left is trying to point out.

A normal distribution was really what stood out to me.

Cardboard

The best explanation of the nonsense that goes on in this country is explained by this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkxQc9Ht7QU

Otherwise I can't explain it.

This is what confounds me about Trump supporters. I mostly agree with what the guy in your video said, and in fact I'll one-up you with one of my favs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4

But Trump only parrots these words. His actions are not aligned.

Yes he cut taxes, but he didn't cut any spending and he's imposed tariffs, which are taxes. And since he didn't cut spending, we're piling up debt, which will ultimately lead to inflation, which is yet another tax. I don't know what the Trump supporter's defense is to this - and let me remind you that his economic advisor quit over the stupidity of this policy.

What about individual liberties? He's strong on gun control, but what about the LGBT community? He's just absolutely hanging them out to dry on the freedoms that they've managed to gain. Trump supporters are good with this. Why? Family values? Do we even need to go into family values and Trump? It's nonsense.

Comparative advantage - his immigration policy is preposterous. Set aside low-wage/border policy for a moment. He wants to cut and restrict h1b visas across the board. I work in the software industry. We DESPERATELY need foreign workers to maintain our competitive advantage because there are simply not enough Americans graduating with computer science degrees. He wants to stop this. He, like all other sh*tty politicians, needs to stay the f*ck out of it, because he doesn't know what he's doing. And what he's done and is doing on the border is sickening and dumb. How many legit people do you know in this 3.5% unemployment-rate-economy that pick fruit for a living? We need people to come do that. Americans are not doing it. I'm all for setting up a secure and sensible process for that, but please be real about it. We need it. Americans won't do it unless it pays A LOT more, which would just translate into increased prices, etc.

On top of all of that he's shady and awful. Many of the closest people to him are bonafide criminals. The likelihood that he too is a criminal seems pretty high. From his actions, it's crystal clear that he's in Putin's pocket. It's endangering the security of our nation and our allies, and if you've been paying attention you should have seen by now that both Trump and Putin are taking this to the level of nuclear bombs. Putin wants to make more bombs, and Trump is enabling it. But ya know - own the libz, I guess.

We're not so different in ideology. Perhaps I just hate politicians so much that I will not align myself with any of them? Now I'm rambling. I'm glad there is now a check on Trump. I am all about Liberty and Freedom, but this President is not, and if we continue in this direction our country will look more and more like Russia, a corrupt kleptocracy.

How in the world is Trump in Putin's pocket? 
- Trump killed 200 of his operatives in Syria this year - in about 2 hours. Just crushed them.
- He hammered Europe and in specific the Germans from giving the Russians a $400B gas deal and threatened
  to withhold US support of Nato if the German persists.

Is this how you treat Putin when he is "in your pocket"?

Trump, unlike Obama, is Putin's worst nightmare.

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2018, 03:40:15 PM »
Anyway - VDH is my new Krauthammer - a really great mind.

Start at 3:20 minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXJi9-1SUs&t=11s

Easy enough to watch in sections.
I tried but sorry when he pulled some story out of his @ss about his developer friend confirming that Trump talks to cement workers on his RE developments, and when people see him on the street they cheer and clap, it's just a boldfaced lie.

Sure, I understand. You hate Trump, so your mind is made up. No problem.
You obviously don't understand. I'm not going to listen to a random guy who lies to me.
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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2018, 04:03:41 PM »
Anyway - VDH is my new Krauthammer - a really great mind.

Start at 3:20 minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXJi9-1SUs&t=11s

Easy enough to watch in sections.
I tried but sorry when he pulled some story out of his @ss about his developer friend confirming that Trump talks to cement workers on his RE developments, and when people see him on the street they cheer and clap, it's just a boldfaced lie.

Sure, I understand. You hate Trump, so your mind is made up. No problem.
You obviously don't understand. I'm not going to listen to a random guy who lies to me.

No I do understand - you already know everything, even that he is a liar.

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2018, 04:14:25 PM »
Anyway - VDH is my new Krauthammer - a really great mind.

Start at 3:20 minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXJi9-1SUs&t=11s

Easy enough to watch in sections.
I tried but sorry when he pulled some story out of his @ss about his developer friend confirming that Trump talks to cement workers on his RE developments, and when people see him on the street they cheer and clap, it's just a boldfaced lie.

Sure, I understand. You hate Trump, so your mind is made up. No problem.
You obviously don't understand. I'm not going to listen to a random guy who lies to me.

Yet you either continue to blatantly lie to everyone else, or are legitimately lying to yourself lol...It would be easier to take you at face value if you and the mob just came out and said "I hate Trump. My mind is made up. Nothing he does I will ever admit to being positive". Instead we get this not so thinly veiled, Jim Acosta style, "analysis" that always seems to reek of a certain, specific, agenda.

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2018, 04:45:25 PM »
Some guy tells me a guy he knows told him that Trump is cheered on the streets of NY and talks to the guys laying cement. Itís just not true. Iíve seen the guy and the only time he touches NYC pavement is for a photo op or to walk from his car to the building. Believe it or not thatís up to you.

The other ramblings in his video were about Hillary Clinton. Itís all been said before and yet here we are two years later still refusing to see past it.
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