Author Topic: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")  (Read 2514 times)

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2018, 04:54:52 PM »
Some guy tells me a guy he knows told him that Trump is cheered on the streets of NY and talks to the guys laying cement. Itís just not true. Iíve seen the guy and the only time he touches NYC pavement is for a photo op or to walk from his car to the building. Believe it or not thatís up to you.

The other ramblings in his video were about Hillary Clinton. Itís all been said before and yet here we are two years later still refusing to see past it.

Sure LC - some random guy, a well respected scholar - of course he's a liar because you don't like his "ramblings".

Like I am going to believe your BS, before I believe him.


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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2018, 04:58:01 PM »
Speaking of which, the trophies are jockeying for position.

https://nypost.com/2018/11/07/bookies-already-gearing-up-for-2020-election/

The black woman from the weirdo state leads the Hispanic (who's really Irish) male, and the Indian(who's really white) woman, while the worthwhile candidates like Biden and Bloomberg sit in the background cuz white guys aint en vogue...

(Before any loony tunes rage on, the above is largely facetious...not "racist" or whatever word pops out of the liberal rebuttal machine)


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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2018, 06:07:09 PM »

Are those odds for winning the presidency or the opposition nomination?

Speaking of which, the trophies are jockeying for position.

https://nypost.com/2018/11/07/bookies-already-gearing-up-for-2020-election/

The black woman from the weirdo state leads the Hispanic (who's really Irish) male, and the Indian(who's really white) woman, while the worthwhile candidates like Biden and Bloomberg sit in the background cuz white guys aint en vogue...

(Before any loony tunes rage on, the above is largely facetious...not "racist" or whatever word pops out of the liberal rebuttal machine)

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2018, 06:31:26 PM »

Are those odds for winning the presidency or the opposition nomination?

Speaking of which, the trophies are jockeying for position.

https://nypost.com/2018/11/07/bookies-already-gearing-up-for-2020-election/

The black woman from the weirdo state leads the Hispanic (who's really Irish) male, and the Indian(who's really white) woman, while the worthwhile candidates like Biden and Bloomberg sit in the background cuz white guys aint en vogue...

(Before any loony tunes rage on, the above is largely facetious...not "racist" or whatever word pops out of the liberal rebuttal machine)

These are for the nomination.

It's interesting that while I think Avenatti is a world class toolbag, he's dead on about the Democrats needing to send out a qualified white guy to beat Trump. Sending out some clown caricature like Harris, Warren or Booker just plays right into his hands. Its hilarious they have been more concerned with running out their trophies; and that because of it they miss some really easy and obvious opportunities. I've always been impressed with Mike Bloomberg, but you know the left doesn't give a shit about Jews and he does have some Russian lineage. Unlike Harris, Booker or Warren, Bloomberg also earned his fortune himself.

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2018, 07:15:26 PM »
Sure you're being facetious instead of racist. But everything you're talking about is about race and heritage.

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2018, 07:19:10 PM »
Sure you're being facetious instead of racist. But everything you're talking about is about race and heritage.

I mean this is exactly what the Democrats are running on. So yes, I'm mocking this, and I guess if some find it racist(in today's world no doubt they will), they should have an issue with the Democrat platform and media rather than constantly obsessing over Trump.

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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2018, 07:53:29 PM »
No, that's not exactly what Democrats are running on. Is representation for minorities a part of what they're running on? Yes. A part.. So you conveniently disregard everything else and focus on just that part. Then catalogue everyone's genealogy and heritage. Surely, it's just in jest.

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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2018, 11:44:56 AM »
In our long-standing political tradition, let's look at another Republican using voter suppression tactics to win elections. This time it's Stevie Kemp, who was Secretary of State in Georgia and ran (and won) Georgia's governor's office:

Between 2012 and 2018, Kemp's office cancelled over 1.4 million voter registrations, with nearly 700,000 cancellations in 2017 alone.[4] By early October 2018, more than 53,000 voter registration applications were on hold by Kemp's office, with nearly 70% of the voter registrations belonging to blacks.[4] No state has been more aggressive in removing registered voters from vote rolls for not voting in consecutive elections; on a single day in July 2017, Kemp's office removed more than 500,000 registered Georgia voters from voter rolls (approximately 8 percent of Georgia's registered voters).[5] Kemp oversaw the removals himself, and did so eight months after he declared that he was going to run for governor.[5] An investigative journalism group run by Greg Palast found that of the approximately 534,000 Georgians whose voter registrations were purged between 2016 and 2017 more than 334,000 still lived where they were registered.[6]

Kemp has frequently been accused of voter suppression.[24][25] In August 2018, Emory University professor Carol Anderson criticized Kemp as an "enemy of democracy" and "an expert in voter suppression" for his actions as Secretary of State, writing that Kemp had kept 35,000 people off voter rolls, many of them from minority groups.[26] His accused tactics included kicking people off voter rolls for an errant hyphen or if "a stray letter or a typographical error on someoneís voter registration card didnít match the records of the stateís driverís license bureau or the Social Security office."[26] African-Americans counted for 66% of the rejected voters.[27] On a recording made by a progressive group he can be heard saying "Democrats are working hard, registering all these minority voters that are out there and others that are sitting on the sidelines."[26] Kemp denies that he engages in voter suppression.[4]



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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2018, 08:33:22 PM »
In our long-standing political tradition, let's look at another Republican using voter suppression tactics to win elections. This time it's Stevie Kemp, who was Secretary of State in Georgia and ran (and won) Georgia's governor's office:

Between 2012 and 2018, Kemp's office cancelled over 1.4 million voter registrations, with nearly 700,000 cancellations in 2017 alone.[4] By early October 2018, more than 53,000 voter registration applications were on hold by Kemp's office, with nearly 70% of the voter registrations belonging to blacks.[4] No state has been more aggressive in removing registered voters from vote rolls for not voting in consecutive elections; on a single day in July 2017, Kemp's office removed more than 500,000 registered Georgia voters from voter rolls (approximately 8 percent of Georgia's registered voters).[5] Kemp oversaw the removals himself, and did so eight months after he declared that he was going to run for governor.[5] An investigative journalism group run by Greg Palast found that of the approximately 534,000 Georgians whose voter registrations were purged between 2016 and 2017 more than 334,000 still lived where they were registered.[6]

Kemp has frequently been accused of voter suppression.[24][25] In August 2018, Emory University professor Carol Anderson criticized Kemp as an "enemy of democracy" and "an expert in voter suppression" for his actions as Secretary of State, writing that Kemp had kept 35,000 people off voter rolls, many of them from minority groups.[26] His accused tactics included kicking people off voter rolls for an errant hyphen or if "a stray letter or a typographical error on someoneís voter registration card didnít match the records of the stateís driverís license bureau or the Social Security office."[26] African-Americans counted for 66% of the rejected voters.[27] On a recording made by a progressive group he can be heard saying "Democrats are working hard, registering all these minority voters that are out there and others that are sitting on the sidelines."[26] Kemp denies that he engages in voter suppression.[4]


Why is voter suppression constantly touted as some Republican scheme? Are Democrats so useless that a driver's license, utility bill, or PROPERLY filled out form too much to ask for? Like literally the majority of the population has no problem doing what's necessary to vote, acquire an auto loan, mortgage, get employment papers, etc. Are we really whining and shouting "SUPPRESSION" because a small group of people are either too lazy to get the right documentation or too stupid to do it correctly? And if so, is this really that exclusive to Democrats?

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Re: Identity Politics (what used to be called simply "racism")
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2018, 10:06:13 PM »
Why is voter suppression constantly touted as some Republican scheme?

Good question! Makes you wonder.

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Are Democrats so useless that a driver's license, utility bill, or PROPERLY filled out form too much to ask for?   
I mentioned two aspects to Kemp's disturbing tactics:
1) removing registered voters from vote rolls for not voting in consecutive elections

You ignored this point,  is it because it doesn't  fit your argument?

2) His accused tactics included kicking people off voter rolls for an errant hyphen or if "a stray letter or a typographical error on someoneís voter registration card didnít match the records of the stateís driverís license bureau or the Social Security office
Making an error on a form does not mean you lose your right to vote. If you're disabled, forgetful, or just plain stupid, you still get to vote (I mean, you voted, didn't you? Kidding  :P ).


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Like literally the majority of the population has no problem doing what's necessary to vote, acquire an auto loan, mortgage, get employment papers, etc.
Ever fill out a car loan or mortgage? You have someone holding your hand the entire time.

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Are we really whining and shouting "SUPPRESSION" because a small group of people are either too lazy to get the right documentation or too stupid to do it correctly?
Does this sound like a small group:
on a single day in July 2017, Kemp's office removed more than 500,000 registered Georgia voters from voter rolls (approximately 8 percent of Georgia's registered voters

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And if so, is this really that exclusive to Democrats?
Voter suppression is usually associated with immoral, corrupt, and overall underachieving humans. I'm as surprised as you are that it seems to be mostly Republicans  ::)
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