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Re: Just in case anyone forgot
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2019, 12:27:15 PM »
The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum disagrees with your instance on calling detainment centers concentration camps. And if you are truly seeking asylum why not seek asylum in Mexico and apply for legal entry in the US?

https://www.ushmm.org/information/press/press-releases/why-holocaust-analogies-are-dangerous

I would argue you have made a mischaracterization. The article doesn't mention detention centers or concentration camps. The closest the article gets towards commenting on this situation is the following:

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the former head of the CIA, took to Twitter to criticize federal policies toward illegal migrants using a black and white photo of the iconic train tracks leading the Auschwitz-Birkenau killing center.

Auschwitz as you probably know was a death camp, not a concentration camp. This is a distinction I already pointed out.
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Re: Just in case anyone forgot
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2019, 02:45:19 PM »
It doesn't matter whether it was Obama or Trump...they should be pouring more money and resources into making sure it's done right.  I'm on the side of removing illegal immigrants who don't follow protocol or miss their required meetings, and making sure it isn't as easy to get in illegally going forward, but it should be done humanely and every effort made to ensure this stuff doesn't happen.  Cheers!

I don't think anyone is against those things Parsad but Democrats are doing everything they can to not fund border security. Further the lefts referral to detention centers as concentration camps sickens me. The horror of true concentration camps should not be watered down by virtue signaling snowflakes....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camps

You are dealing with people...human beings...f**k the wall and the Democrats resistance to it.  Treat the illegals humanely.  One has nothing to do with the other, but both parties are making it so.  Trump as president should be above that...not using it as a bargaining chip.  Cheers!
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Re: Just in case anyone forgot
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2019, 02:53:39 PM »
I don't think anyone is against those things Parsad but Democrats are doing everything they can to not fund border security. Further the lefts referral to detention centers as concentration camps sickens me. The horror of true concentration camps should not be watered down by virtue signaling snowflakes....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camps
Last I checked this is a policy set by the White House, and the White House bears responsibility for how these people are treated.

And yes, they are concentration camps (distinct from death camps) and they have a long history of being used to oppress political enemies and minority groups. Including here in the US - or have you forgot treatment of the Japanese during WW2?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concentration_and_internment_camps

It doesn't matter whether it was Obama or Trump...they should be pouring more money and resources into making sure it's done right.  I'm on the side of removing illegal immigrants who don't follow protocol or miss their required meetings, and making sure it isn't as easy to get in illegally going forward, but it should be done humanely and every effort made to ensure this stuff doesn't happen.  Cheers!

I don't think anyone is against those things Parsad but Democrats are doing everything they can to not fund border security. Further the lefts referral to detention centers as concentration camps sickens me. The horror of true concentration camps should not be watered down by virtue signaling snowflakes....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camps



They aren't concentration camps...and they aren't detention centers.  They are internment camps.  I think it's silly for the left wing to call them concentration camps...we all truly know the horrors of concentration camps, so let's not make true concentration camps benign by comparing them to what the U.S. is doing.  And they aren't detention centers like the right wing likes to call them.  If people are getting sick and dying, we know that they aren't being held for a few hours at the airport on the way back from a vacation in Cuba because they lied about how much tobacco and alcohol they brought back.  There are abuses occurring. 

During the WWII, internment camps were fully supported by 90% of the population, but in hindsight, we can see how erroneous our ways were back then.  These camps will be seen the same way one day.  They aren't atrocious concentration camps, and they aren't hospitable detention centers, but a blight somewhere in between.  Cheers!
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Re: Just in case anyone forgot
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2019, 04:23:02 PM »
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Re: Just in case anyone forgot
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2019, 04:25:26 PM »
Whatever one wants to call it, you can't feel bad for these people. They come here knowing what is awaiting them.

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Re: Just in case anyone forgot
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2019, 07:03:36 PM »
Whatever one wants to call it, you can't feel bad for these people. They come here knowing what is awaiting them.

We're talking about children and infants here...

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Re: Just in case anyone forgot
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2019, 12:51:34 AM »
Mass detention in a confined space without trial = concentration camp.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/

No, that is an internment camp.  They are in squalid or less than ideal conditions, but they are not being tortured, starved, put to labour or being murdered.  Cheers!
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Re: Just in case anyone forgot
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2019, 12:54:03 AM »
Whatever one wants to call it, you can't feel bad for these people. They come here knowing what is awaiting them.

The children had no idea...do you really think they did?  Or deserve it? 

I would want them to go through the system legally, but only a heartless bastard would be ok with this.  I don't think you are one...unless you want to prove me wrong.  Cheers!
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Re: Just in case anyone forgot
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2019, 05:41:02 AM »
Whatever one wants to call it, you can't feel bad for these people. They come here knowing what is awaiting them.

The children had no idea...do you really think they did?  Or deserve it? 

I would want them to go through the system legally, but only a heartless bastard would be ok with this.  I don't think you are one...unless you want to prove me wrong.  Cheers!

Then that's called bad parenting, and maybe the children should be taken away, just like what happens to bad parents in America.

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Re: Just in case anyone forgot
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2019, 07:37:55 AM »
Interesting video - a collection of democrats on border security prior to Trump being elected.....my oh my what a bunch of Nazis! Demanding enforcement of laws, sending troops to the border, deporting poor illegals.....

https://twitter.com/jaxucks2/status/1142542793635745792