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Re: Kudos to Trump!
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2019, 06:52:42 AM »
I'd love to know why you think my response was biased. And just for clarity, I agree with the ultimate decision not to attack Iran. I think it was the correct decision. This was my analysis of why Trump goes from ordering a military strike to cancelling it.

It's possible there is another explanation: perhaps he had an 11th-hour change of heart and found Jesus, or maybe he simply had a senile moment. Maybe it wasn't Trump at all but somebody else called it off and it's being attributed to Trump.

Tons of possibilities, but IMHO the most likely explanation is the bully-behavior I described, which is consistent with his historical pattern of behavior. If that's a biased analysis of the situation, I'd love to learn why.

When your opening line is "The thing about Trump is" you are immediately trying to find the bad. You couldn't even say something good about his choice. 


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Re: Kudos to Trump!
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2019, 07:25:11 AM »
Now I think you're showing your own bias. In other words, I do not have to coddle the president to signal an unbiased analysis of the situation.

The analysis should stand on its own. Now, if you disagree with my assessment or think it's biased, I'd be genuinely interested to know why. But to say I'm biased only because I didn't fawn over Trump is simply showing your own biased, low-expectations of DT.

To paraphrase Chris Rock: "Some people always want credit for some stuff they're supposed to do. They'll say some stuff like, "I ain't never been to jail!". Well, do you want a cookie? You're not supposed to go to jail you low-expectation-having motherf*@($%!"

Funny stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0B_ekSrsEk
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Re: Kudos to Trump!
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2019, 07:57:35 AM »
I'd love to know why you think my response was biased. And just for clarity, I agree with the ultimate decision not to attack Iran. I think it was the correct decision. This was my analysis of why Trump goes from ordering a military strike to cancelling it.

It's possible there is another explanation: perhaps he had an 11th-hour change of heart and found Jesus, or maybe he simply had a senile moment. Maybe it wasn't Trump at all but somebody else called it off and it's being attributed to Trump.

Tons of possibilities, but IMHO the most likely explanation is the bully-behavior I described, which is consistent with his historical pattern of behavior. If that's a biased analysis of the situation, I'd love to learn why.

When your opening line is "The thing about Trump is" you are immediately trying to find the bad. You couldn't even say something good about his choice. 

Of course LC is biased, but so are you and so am I. Everyone is biased.  If Hitler did something good,  it would be hard to look at that one thing in isolation without being biased by who he was and what he's done. And yes, to LC Trump is some kind of super-Hitler (who just hasn't happened to have committed genocide yet).

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Re: Kudos to Trump!
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2019, 08:11:49 AM »
I'd love to know why you think my response was biased. And just for clarity, I agree with the ultimate decision not to attack Iran. I think it was the correct decision. This was my analysis of why Trump goes from ordering a military strike to cancelling it.

It's possible there is another explanation: perhaps he had an 11th-hour change of heart and found Jesus, or maybe he simply had a senile moment. Maybe it wasn't Trump at all but somebody else called it off and it's being attributed to Trump.

Tons of possibilities, but IMHO the most likely explanation is the bully-behavior I described, which is consistent with his historical pattern of behavior. If that's a biased analysis of the situation, I'd love to learn why.

When your opening line is "The thing about Trump is" you are immediately trying to find the bad. You couldn't even say something good about his choice. 

Of course LC is biased, but so are you and so am I. Everyone is biased.  If Hitler did something good,  it would be hard to look at that one thing in isolation without being biased by who he was and what he's done. And yes, to LC Trump is some kind of super-Hitler (who just hasn't happened to have committed genocide yet).
Sure, I can agree everyone is biased. But that's still a bit different than giving credit where it is due. Also I try to be biased through the lens of the Constitution (when it applies). And LC I'm not saying you should fawn over him. I'm simply saying it seems like you try very hard to find the bad. At the very least try to have some positive skepticism. America not attacking another country is a win for America and the world.

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Re: Kudos to Trump!
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2019, 08:52:32 AM »
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America not attacking another country is a win for America and the world.

Like Chris Rock said, "Give this man a cookie"


None of this talk of biases analyzes the ramification of Trump authorizing a military strike vs Iran and cancelling it at the last minute.

Of course, Iran sits back and thinks to itself, "We kicked this fellow in the shin, and in response he talked a big game but ultimately did nothing. Looks like we called this Trump fellow's bluff".

Trump gets to boast how tough he is. And then at the last minute, how "caring" he is.

But what actually matters, Trump has done damage. If Iran called his bluff once, you don't think they'll try do it again?

Standing up to the bully.
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Re: Kudos to Trump!
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2019, 11:20:50 AM »
I don't think there was ever an authorized strike that was pulled off at the last minute.  This is just a form of communication.  He is just trying to explain to them that they are right on the very edge.

The fact of the matter is, this just shows how squeezed Iran is by the sanctions.  It implies they are working as intended.

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Re: Kudos to Trump!
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2019, 12:17:51 PM »
How do you figure that?
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Re: Kudos to Trump!
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2019, 01:44:08 PM »
What statement are you referring to LC?

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Re: Kudos to Trump!
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2019, 02:37:55 PM »
I'd love to know why you think my response was biased. And just for clarity, I agree with the ultimate decision not to attack Iran. I think it was the correct decision. This was my analysis of why Trump goes from ordering a military strike to cancelling it.

It's possible there is another explanation: perhaps he had an 11th-hour change of heart and found Jesus, or maybe he simply had a senile moment. Maybe it wasn't Trump at all but somebody else called it off and it's being attributed to Trump.

Tons of possibilities, but IMHO the most likely explanation is the bully-behavior I described, which is consistent with his historical pattern of behavior. If that's a biased analysis of the situation, I'd love to learn why.

When your opening line is "The thing about Trump is" you are immediately trying to find the bad. You couldn't even say something good about his choice. 

Of course LC is biased, but so are you and so am I. Everyone is biased.  If Hitler did something good,  it would be hard to look at that one thing in isolation without being biased by who he was and what he's done. And yes, to LC Trump is some kind of super-Hitler (who just hasn't happened to have committed genocide yet).
Sure, I can agree everyone is biased. But that's still a bit different than giving credit where it is due. Also I try to be biased through the lens of the Constitution (when it applies). And LC I'm not saying you should fawn over him. I'm simply saying it seems like you try very hard to find the bad. At the very least try to have some positive skepticism. America not attacking another country is a win for America and the world.

Yeah, but that is true about alot of people, not just LC.  For two years, we've had just about anything Trump did irrationally defended...didn't matter what it was.  Many things were very child-like, and certainly not presidential let alone behaving like an adult.  I mean why the complete attack on Obama and everything Obama did, trying to wipe out any and all things Obama did as president?  Very bizarre...vengeful...distasteful and a waste of energy.  Especially when he didn't accomplish anything like repealing Obamacare. 

The rotating door of personnel...the lack of response to Charlottesville...alienation of global allies...f**kin tariffs where they weren't needed...nepotism up the ying yang...lack of disclosure on tax returns...increasing deficits and national debt...deregulation where it isn't needed (banks)...the list goes on and on, and was constantly defended by the usual suspects on here.  So, before you go lording over LC's biases, take a moment for inner reflection.  Cheers!
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Re: Kudos to Trump!
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2019, 02:43:01 PM »
Cardboard, every time your post has an insult, it will be deleted going forward.  I've deleted two today.  Eventually, when I get tired of it, I'm going to ban you...so be forewarned for one of the last times about insults.  As a long-time member, you are getting the benefit of the doubt, and that's why I haven't done it yet. 

I don't mind blunt posts that state fact or opinion, but calling people "dumb", etc is not allowed.  Cheers!
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