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rkbabang

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Re: McAfee Fleeing US; Will Run Presidential Campaign from a Boat
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2019, 11:22:59 AM »
I’m curious how the anarchists here balance the good with the bad. Is a federal govt all bad? Where is the line? For example, what would have happened during WW2 had the USA lived in some anarchist/libertarian state?

"To invade the United States would prove most difficult because behind every blade of grass is an American with a rifle."

Whether or not Isoroku Yamamoto actually said this, it is true.  It is the reason Germany went out of their way to avoid Switzerland in two world wars.

But that aside, if the US hadn't intervened in WWI there would have been no clear winner. The fighting would have gone on until it ended in a stalemate.  There would have been no Treaty of Versailles with devastating consequences to Germany.  There would have been no rise of Hitler. And thus no WWII & no holocaust.


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Re: McAfee Fleeing US; Will Run Presidential Campaign from a Boat
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2019, 11:36:50 AM »
I don’t think that Germany was afraid to deal with Switzerland’s militia or army. Switzerland had far more value as a truly neutral banking and trade center ( and for some Nazis to secure stolen assets)  than as a vasal requiring additional resources to occupy.
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Re: McAfee Fleeing US; Will Run Presidential Campaign from a Boat
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2019, 12:09:37 PM »
"But that aside, if the US hadn't intervened in WWI there would have been no clear winner. The fighting would have gone on until it ended in a stalemate.  There would have been no Treaty of Versailles with devastating consequences to Germany.  There would have been no rise of Hitler. And thus no WWII & no holocaust."

I am not so sure about that regarding WWI. Key was arrival of tank on battlefield and revised strategy by U.K., France, Canada, Australia to better integrate their troops and move artillery along with infantry (infancy of blitzkrieg). On the other hand, America surely helped reduce the length of the conflict.

Then in WWII if the U.S. had not intervened, Europe would be all Nazi or all Soviet.

So no, I don't think that your dream of troops always being at home or not existing at all is in the interest of our free world.

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Re: McAfee Fleeing US; Will Run Presidential Campaign from a Boat
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2019, 03:24:08 PM »
I’m curious how the anarchists here balance the good with the bad. Is a federal govt all bad? Where is the line? For example, what would have happened during WW2 had the USA lived in some anarchist/libertarian state?

"To invade the United States would prove most difficult because behind every blade of grass is an American with a rifle."

Whether or not Isoroku Yamamoto actually said this, it is true.  It is the reason Germany went out of their way to avoid Switzerland in two world wars.

But that aside, if the US hadn't intervened in WWI there would have been no clear winner. The fighting would have gone on until it ended in a stalemate.  There would have been no Treaty of Versailles with devastating consequences to Germany.  There would have been no rise of Hitler. And thus no WWII & no holocaust.

If I recall correctly there was bombing of Switzerland, both by Nazis and "allied forces".
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Re: McAfee Fleeing US; Will Run Presidential Campaign from a Boat
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2019, 04:21:58 PM »
We might be drinking the stuff below I stead of Coke, and Bitburger instead of Budweiser,  if the US had not intervened in WW1 and WW2. Without a functioning government, the US might look like the US in the Amazon series, “The man in the high castle”,  I doubt that whatever # of guns are owned by US citizens really make a difference, when you have a real army rolling in with tanks, airplanes that is willing to raze cities and kill millions, if need to be.



Or perhaps the Russians would have won, which would get us back to Stolchynaya.
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