Author Topic: New California!  (Read 2415 times)

Cardboard

  • Lifetime Member
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2457


LongTermView

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 267
Re: New California!
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2018, 01:39:23 PM »
This doesn't make sense to me. Often anti-government folks propose this sort of thing yet it creates more government.

JayGatsby

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 583
Re: New California!
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2018, 01:45:26 PM »
Not necessarily anti-government folks. Similar issues in Colorado and I suspect a lot of states. In Colorado the Front Range (Denver, Boulder, etc) is where the people are, so they get the representation. The rural areas end up somewhat silenced.

rb

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2313
Re: New California!
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2018, 03:40:53 PM »
Yea this is pretty moronic. Since most of the GDP and taxes are generated in the urban areas once they separate New California is looking at a sharp cut in services, a sharp rise in taxes or a combination of both.

I say they should go for it!

rkbabang

  • Lifetime Member
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3697
Re: New California!
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2018, 06:26:34 AM »
This doesn't make sense to me. Often anti-government folks propose this sort of thing yet it creates more government.

It doesn't necessarily create more government, but it creates more governments.  I'm all for more smaller distributed governments over larger centralized government.  I'd rather there be 1000 states and no central government over what we have now.  CA is just too damn big (https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/7fbx3q/states_with_a_smaller_population_than_los_angeles/).  It should be broken up into 4 or more states.

rkbabang

  • Lifetime Member
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3697
Re: New California!
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2018, 06:41:28 AM »
Yea this is pretty moronic. Since most of the GDP and taxes are generated in the urban areas once they separate New California is looking at a sharp cut in services, a sharp rise in taxes or a combination of both.

I say they should go for it!

I'll keep my taxes you keep your "services".
Thanks.

rb

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2313
Re: New California!
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2018, 11:00:55 AM »
Yea this is pretty moronic. Since most of the GDP and taxes are generated in the urban areas once they separate New California is looking at a sharp cut in services, a sharp rise in taxes or a combination of both.

I say they should go for it!

I'll keep my taxes you keep your "services".
Thanks.
Sure but in this case it'll probably be more like I keep my services and you don't keep your taxes.

flesh

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 264
Re: New California!
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2018, 01:49:23 PM »
Would love to see this.... always wanted to move to ca but couldn't justify the taxes...so heinous... I can always visit.

rb

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2313
Re: New California!
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2018, 02:23:26 PM »
Would love to see this.... always wanted to move to ca but couldn't justify the taxes...so heinous... I can always visit.
Are taxes really that high in Cali though? I haven't dug too deep but a quick check if you made 100k per year you would pay about 6.7% of that in income tax. If you lived in some other state, say North Carolina, then you would pay 5%. Is that 1.7% difference really such a big deal?

flesh

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 264
Re: New California!
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2018, 03:57:34 PM »
Would love to see this.... always wanted to move to ca but couldn't justify the taxes...so heinous... I can always visit.
Are taxes really that high in Cali though? I haven't dug too deep but a quick check if you made 100k per year you would pay about 6.7% of that in income tax. If you lived in some other state, say North Carolina, then you would pay 5%. Is that 1.7% difference really such a big deal?

Well the state income tax rate can be higher than that....plus sales tax, property tax, gas tax, energy and housing costs are all higher for me. Adding up the difference make my house and one car free personally.

In the near future I plan on moving my tax base to a no state income tax state as a greater proportion of my income is derived from cap gains. It won't be very long before that difference pays for the new house in the no state income tax state... = no braina.