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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2018, 01:59:47 AM »
He's still not got anyone running the VA, and now it seems he's going to cancel his trip to visit the troops on the border "protecting" us from the caravan.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-is-preparing-to-remove-kirstjen-nielsen-as-homeland-security-secretary-aides-say/2018/11/12/77111496-e6b0-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html

This is poor leadership

It must be those Russians again - since Trump is in Putin's pocket according to you!


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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2018, 03:57:24 AM »
^ We know that everyone else could travel the same day, including his chief of staff, the French minister, the German Cancellor Merkel (she travelled to Compiegne the same day), but Trump was nowhere to be seen. We also know that Obama went there a couple of years ago in the pouring rain. We also know from former Chief of Staffs that there is always an plan for bad weather, but it seems that Trump decided not be in convenienced. And that comes from someone who claims he would go after a gunman armed to the teeth like the Las Vegas shooter. He is a twitter warrior, nothing else, a leader he is not.
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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2018, 04:39:26 AM »
He is a twitter warrior, nothing else, a leader he is not.

Yes, your true leader does much more than symbolic gestures.

He holds a historic White House ceremony honoring a deserter, Bo Bergdahl - who during WWII, would have been shot.
Better yet, in return, he gives our Taliban enemies back 5 ruthless murders in exchange.

That is the way your real leader honors his military.

Happy Veterans Day Barrack and thank you for your service Bo.
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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2018, 05:08:11 AM »
I'm wondering if it was known that Bergdahl had deserted / gone AWOL at the time of the Rose Garden ceremony and prisoner swap.  I know it was determined later that this was the case.  But my understanding was that at the time of the negotiations, it was not known that he had gone AWOL moments before being captured.  It was being handled as a prisoner of war/enemy capture situation and they negotiated for the return of a US service member.  They were careful to make a distinction between not leaving one of our men behind and the policy of 'not negotiating with terrorists.'  But of course, they had fudged around the edges of 'the US does not negotiate with terrorists' before this.  And the US was in an armed conflict with the Taliban at the time, so it wasn't cut and dry that they were 'terrorists' in that context per se.

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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2018, 05:49:39 AM »
"You last President did not WILLFULLY hurt the United States - he NAIVELY hurt the United States. Obama was not unpatriotic. He was weak and naive - and ignored the lessons of history.  He was Neville Chamberlain. Trump is not."

Unfortunately he was a lot more evil than Neville Chamberlain and a lot more incompetent. Neville did realize he had been duped.

All he was good at was making a big show of killing Bin Laden.

I would say that close to 1 million people died because of the actions of Obama and Hillary Clinton by encouraging the Arab Spring, leaving Iraq on its own. Think of the mess in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, rise of ISIS (which he always called by a different name so that people could not understand). These are all consequences from their actions.

2017 and 2018 must be so far the years in history where humanity has seen the least number of violent death per million people.

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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2018, 06:24:05 AM »
I'm wondering if it was known that Bergdahl had deserted / gone AWOL at the time of the Rose Garden ceremony and prisoner swap.  I know it was determined later that this was the case.  But my understanding was that at the time of the negotiations, it was not known that he had gone AWOL moments before being captured.  It was being handled as a prisoner of war/enemy capture situation and they negotiated for the return of a US service member.  They were careful to make a distinction between not leaving one of our men behind and the policy of 'not negotiating with terrorists.'  But of course, they had fudged around the edges of 'the US does not negotiate with terrorists' before this.  And the US was in an armed conflict with the Taliban at the time, so it wasn't cut and dry that they were 'terrorists' in that context per se.

There were many soldiers that knew Bergdahl, that suspected he had deserted. He was a flake and they knew it.
A President badly in need of a positive PR story likely knew, since he micro-managed the military anyway.

For the "Taliban Five", that Obama gladly gave up - one wanted for war crimes, another wanted for massacring citizens.


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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2018, 06:32:17 AM »

I would say that close to 1 million people died because of the actions of Obama and Hillary Clinton by encouraging the Arab Spring, leaving Iraq on its own. Think of the mess in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, rise of ISIS (which he always called by a different name so that people could not understand). These are all consequences from their actions.

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Obama's lasting legacy will be a foreign policy of weakness that was a disaster for the Middle East.
But with him gone now, Iran will never have their wish of being the region's superpower.

The Baltic states, too, can now feel secure against Putin with him gone as well.

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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2018, 11:58:42 AM »
He is a twitter warrior, nothing else, a leader he is not.

Yes, your true leader does much more than symbolic gestures.

He holds a historic White House ceremony honoring a deserter, Bo Bergdahl - who during WWII, would have been shot.
Better yet, in return, he gives our Taliban enemies back 5 ruthless murders in exchange.

That is the way your real leader honors his military.

Happy Veterans Day Barrack and thank you for your service Bo.

All you do is keep flipping it.  You actually never answer a single question.  How is it that Kelly made it, Marcon made it, Merkel made it...do you really think that Trump's security detail couldn't figure out how to keep him safe when it started raining?  But somehow you are going to bring this back to Obama or Clinton or some other liberal.  We're just asking you what 2+2 equals and you keep coming up with it equals "Obama"!  We want you to correctly answer "4", but we'd frickin' take "5" or "7"...but the retread answer always is "Kenyan muslim who loves Arabs and made America weak!"  Cheers!
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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2018, 12:04:33 PM »

I would say that close to 1 million people died because of the actions of Obama and Hillary Clinton by encouraging the Arab Spring, leaving Iraq on its own. Think of the mess in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, rise of ISIS (which he always called by a different name so that people could not understand). These are all consequences from their actions.

Cardboard

Obama's lasting legacy will be a foreign policy of weakness that was a disaster for the Middle East.
But with him gone now, Iran will never have their wish of being the region's superpower.

The Baltic states, too, can now feel secure against Putin with him gone as well.

You will see war in the Middle East and Putin's reaches growing unchecked.  That's what you are going to get under Trump.  Just like North Korea is now expanding their nuclear arms program after that superb visit between Trump and rocketman.  And forget about Trump's alienation of China...they will be looking to partner with everyone Trump alienates...like most of Europe, South America, North Korea...Cheers!
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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2018, 12:48:12 PM »
I never realized that it was a disaster to leave the middle east and not get bogged down in end less conflicts, that wastes precious lives & resources. The father of ISIS is W.

The dictators in these countries keep the peace. They routinely execute 1000's to save lives of tens of millions. This is the way it has worked for eons. When you go in without a plan, you end up breaking the system that is protecting tens of millions. UN should award these dictators with peace awards. Look at the number of people dead before and after US invasion. Night and day. 

To blame W's mistakes on Obama is the height of stupidity. Racism just blinds people. I guess the Korner of berKie Klansmen got their strong dose of alternate facts.


I would say that close to 1 million people died because of the actions of Obama and Hillary Clinton by encouraging the Arab Spring, leaving Iraq on its own. Think of the mess in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, rise of ISIS (which he always called by a different name so that people could not understand). These are all consequences from their actions.

Cardboard

Obama's lasting legacy will be a foreign policy of weakness that was a disaster for the Middle East.
But with him gone now, Iran will never have their wish of being the region's superpower.

The Baltic states, too, can now feel secure against Putin with him gone as well.