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Gregmal

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Snowflake Fabrications
« on: August 10, 2018, 04:18:14 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/license-meme-social-media-mocks-racist-reactions-latest-idris-elba-bond-rumors-143505638.html

So let me get this straight... Nothing has even happened yet, and these people have completely fabricated a narrative, branded people racists, and started an outrage campaign??? For something that doesn't even exist?


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Re: Snowflake Fabrications
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2018, 06:54:05 PM »
I think you misread the article — it indicated that there have already been intolerant comments online. Which the humorous comments responded to, "...rather than simply engaging with those trolls."

My take is that your being upset by this and feeling that you needed to create a thread dedicated to it suggests that you are the one with the sensitive, snowflake-like feelings.

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This week a new report indicated that such casting may actually take place — and the response on Twitter has been especially pointed.

As one might expect, many have reacted to this news with less-than-tolerant online comments, given that Elba is black and Bond has historically been white.

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Re: Snowflake Fabrications
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2018, 07:15:30 PM »
I think you misread the article — it indicated that there have already been intolerant comments online. Which the humorous comments responded to, "...rather than simply engaging with those trolls."

My take is that your being upset by this and feeling that you needed to create a thread dedicated to it suggests that you are the one with the sensitive, snowflake-like feelings.

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This week a new report indicated that such casting may actually take place — and the response on Twitter has been especially pointed.

As one might expect, many have reacted to this news with less-than-tolerant online comments, given that Elba is black and Bond has historically been white.

"a few fans have used this potential casting news to joke about the racist treatment an Elba Bond might actually face — all as a way to both turn the tables on those who might object to his participation because of his skin color and to simultaneously address heated issues that remain front and center in contemporary society."

Secondarily, I don't know how people having a more than half century old perception of what James Bond would or should look like makes them racist...


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Re: Snowflake Fabrications
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2018, 04:11:07 AM »
I think the speculation started in 2015 so we have already seen what the reaction was back then. Just some poor reporting by the “journalist” to not point that out.

Trevor Noah even did a bit about it in a special.

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Re: Snowflake Fabrications
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2018, 04:53:18 AM »
Gillian Anderson is also in the running for the part.  https://www.thewrap.com/next-james-bond-idris-elba-tom-hiddleston-damian-lewis-jamie-bell-aidan-turner-james-norton-gillian-anderson-daniel-craig-007/
The people fixated on casting Elba for the part are clearly misogynist.

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Re: Snowflake Fabrications
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2018, 06:40:14 AM »
"Secondarily, I don't know how people having a more than half century old perception of what James Bond would or should look like makes them racist..."

It's simply modernization, and the changing of culture with the times.
The objectors just aren't able to move on, and have a public venue in which to vent in.

Q becoming the young techy 'nerd', M becoming a women, Bond becoming a .......
All evidence that pushing the envelope is not a bad thing.

At one time the Canadian Mountie had to be male, white, 6'2"+, and handy with his fist/club - all desirable things back in early 1900.
Today our Mountie comes in a variety of dress, both genders, lots of colours, a number of heights, and is handy in many diferent areas - all desirable things in early 2000. Times change, and so do Mounties. Bond is no different.

Our own vote is for JANE Bond  ....
The black James would just keep getting pulled over!

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Re: Snowflake Fabrications
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2018, 06:55:33 AM »

Secondarily, I don't know how people having a more than half century old perception of what James Bond would or should look like makes them racist...

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Re: Snowflake Fabrications
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2018, 07:03:57 AM »
SharperDingaan

"Our own vote is for JANE Bond  ....
The black James would just keep getting pulled over!"

 Well done!

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Re: Snowflake Fabrications
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2018, 07:43:06 AM »
Seriously though - Black men represent just slightly over 1% of the British population.  Casting Elba as Bond - the quintessential British spy - strikes me as political correctness run amuck. 

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Re: Snowflake Fabrications
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2018, 05:21:46 PM »
If you own/control the IP, you can do whatever you want.

This reminds me of the big blow-up on '80s Bruh Twitter about the new She-Ra cartoon being designed with shorts. People who can emotionally invest in these sort of matters generally don't have much of interest to say.

When your life revolves around the fantasy worlds of others, to the point that it causes you emotional distress, it is time to figure out some of your own hobbies that you can have a hand in sculpting. No need to have a tantrum over someone else's art when you can create your own.

Not to say this isn't all very educational, because it is to me. The strong aversion people have to seeing their favorite nostalgia acts "mutilated" in front of them highlights the power of media and modern mythology to leave lasting impressions. Disney is a business that makes billions off of children and the nostalgia, in a sense temporary infantilization, of adults.

The adults bring their kids to a movie or park, and then in thirty years the kids begin to bring their own. The adults get to relive the memories of good times with their parents, and pass them down to their own children to continue the cycle. There's something to that.

Just IMO.
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