Author Topic: The absurdity of modern politics  (Read 3982 times)

wachtwoord

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Re: The absurdity of modern politics
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2018, 01:07:14 AM »
There are fitness clubs in my city that are women only.  So that is a form of discrimination too right?  The problem I have is stuff like that can happen and it's all good but something like this goes to the supreme court.  What that implies is that judges are allowed to decide which groups require protection and take measures to counteract that.   That itself is a form of discrimination.

I'm fine with this form of discrimination (although I'd refer to the hippies that run it as giant hypocrites) but I'm fine with any sort of discrimination that does not include a crime (a true crime such as murder, violence, threat of violence etc).

Go ahead, cripple your business by not taking customers or employees for an invalid reason (e.g race or sexual orientation). If it's true discrimination (so the reason for exclusion truly makes no business sense) the market will punish your business in the long term for its inefficiency by reduced profits at the best.

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Re: The absurdity of modern politics
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2018, 08:12:42 PM »
Actually school shootings are by and large a modern problem. They didn't happen when America was more conservative like in the 1930's. Because in the 1930's a kid wouldn't have been even able to conceive of the idea despite the fact that guns were much much much more readily available.

Once again I blame this on the Left. They destroyed the culture and destroyed the family. What exactly did you think was going to happen. Most of these kids come from broken homes. And this parallels increases in violence, crime and theft that are largely the product of the 1960's when all this cultural garbage came into force.

To blame this on conservatives you would have to show that this problem existed when America was actually much much more conservative (like in the 1930's) and IT DIDNT!!!
Rukawa, please name which things you would roll back to the 1930s that were undone by the cultural garbage of the 1960s. Please be detailed and specific.

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Re: The absurdity of modern politics
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2018, 06:12:52 AM »
It seems some on the left want their cake and eat it too.

Local store owner bans Republican customers, says they’re evil

I think he has every right to do business with whoever he pleases, but so do bakers.  But I'd no sooner do business with him than I'd buy a cake from a homophobic baker, which is my right.  This shouldn't be an issue for government.

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Re: The absurdity of modern politics
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2018, 11:24:24 AM »
What that implies is that judges are allowed to decide which groups require protection and take measures to counteract that.   

The wedding cake case currently pending before the Supreme Court involves a First Amendment challenge to the enforcement of a Colorado statute, which was passed by the Colorado Legislature through the normal legislative process.  It does not arise out of "judges . . . decid[ing] which groups require protection[.]"

More generally, constitutional equal protection obligations do not apply to private businesses.  So, when you hear about a private business being regulated, its usually a legislatively-enacted statute or an executive-agency regulation that's being applied, not some judge-made diktat.  For example, the rules that bar private businesses from discriminating based on gender or race come from legislatively-enacted statutes, like Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, not from judges.

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Re: The absurdity of modern politics
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2018, 01:14:08 PM »

Actually school shootings are by and large a modern problem. They didn't happen when America was more conservative like in the 1930's. Because in the 1930's a kid wouldn't have been even able to conceive of the idea despite the fact that guns were much much much more readily available.

No they were too busy conceiving of the idea that black people were second class citizens.

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Re: The absurdity of modern politics
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2018, 05:48:22 AM »
Anyone who holds up the 1930's as a good example really should bone up on their history.

But just as a hint, we have the "Dirty 30's" depression era, Al Capone and his merry band of thieves and, oh yes, that fella in Germany came to power trying to make the country great again while a certain large country on this side of the ocean pursued its ideals of nationalism and isolationism. This stuff didn't work out all that well back then.

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Re: The absurdity of modern politics
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2018, 03:46:20 PM »
I'd like the names of the books you read that hold the 1930s as the pinnacle of conservatism in America, seems like a tough sell.

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Re: The absurdity of modern politics
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2018, 04:37:54 PM »
My comments were a response to the post made previously by rukawa

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Re: The absurdity of modern politics
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2018, 04:58:41 PM »
My comments were a response to the post made previously by rukawa

as were mine.

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Re: The absurdity of modern politics
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2018, 01:16:47 AM »
Just move to eastern europe or central europe or parts of asia , russia you will see less of this nonsense due to the backlash of communism. However, it has taken on a different flavour and you won't see so much of this stuff that makes the West kind of a laughing stock.