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cubsfan

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The Bitter Hostility of the Left
« on: August 24, 2019, 08:05:15 PM »
Today, we hit a new low for the Left - with Bill Maher's commentary of David Koch's death:

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/bill-maher-david-koch

There is no decency anymore with these people. Imagine someone saying this about a dying Barrack Obama or Ruth Ginsburg.

The lack of condemnation and silence from the media is deafening.


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Re: The Bitter Hostility of the Left
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2019, 03:01:51 PM »
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Fortunately they’re gone now. They’ve gone on to greener pastures, or perhaps far less green pastures, but they’re gone. They’re gone, very happy they’re gone...

Trump talking about John McCain

Decency is what a lot of folks have been complaining about, but you said it was TDS.

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Re: The Bitter Hostility of the Left
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2019, 04:32:32 PM »
“The Bitter Hostility of the Left” “There is no decency anymore with these people.”

Really now, isn’t it sort of “holier than thou” to criticise the “Left” because some COMEDIAN made insulting remarks about the passing of certain billionaire, Republican supporter when the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES cannot stop taking cheap shots at a recently deceased true American war hero?

You use very strong words to describe some comedian's remarks about a deceased political contributor and blame the "Left" as a whole for his remarks. Bill Mahar really only represents Bill Mahar.

But the President of the United States represents the people of United States. What about the President's ongoing slanderous attacks on John McCain?  Shouldn't he and the people he represents receive much stronger criticism for those ongoing remarks?

Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason. - Mark Twain

cubsfan

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Re: The Bitter Hostility of the Left
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2019, 05:47:02 PM »
Even with the two of you - with whom I've had so many disagreements on principles - I'd never CELEBRATE your painful death from cancer.

It's a new low for the Left - and shows an utter lack of humanity and decency. Of course, it was not made by just "some comedian", but
a very public figure of the Left.

That the Left has NOT condemn it makes me wonder, why they do not distance themselves from this, much as I would the KKK or White Supremacy.

Surely the Left must have some decency?

To me it just shows the bitter, bitter hostility of never getting over the blown Presidential election. 

cwericb

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Re: The Bitter Hostility of the Left
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2019, 04:40:16 AM »
You always tend to ignore the point.

1) Bill Mahar made rude remarks about a certain Republican billionaire. Once.
    Donald Trump attacks a true American hero. Repeatedly.

2) Mr. Mahar, As far as I know, has never been elected to represent anyone. Hence the title "Mister"
    President Trump was elected to represent the People of the United States. Hence the term "President"

3) Mahar’s statements are his own.
    Trump’s statements are the voice of the American people.

There is no justification to blame “the left” for Mahar’s statements.

But where is the outrage when Trump insults an American hero?
Where is the outrage over the endless insults Trump makes about anyone and everyone with whom he disagrees?

You seem to have a very selective sensitivity to outrageous remarks.
Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason. - Mark Twain

cubsfan

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Re: The Bitter Hostility of the Left
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2019, 07:16:06 AM »
Obviously, you are not paying attention.

Trump was roundly and repeatedly condemned for his comments about John McCain by Republicans and Republican leaders - which I completely agreed with, since I admire both McCain and Trump.

Trump is CONSTANTLY condemned for his comments- 24 hours a day - and you know it. Don't be so disingenuous.

Bill Maher's comments are done with a sense of "it's ok to say ANYTHING against a conservative we hate, because we occupy the MORAL high ground".
But his specific comments are a new level of hate, even for the LEFT.

Maher's comments are reprehensible and you know it. The Silence from the Media and the Left tells American's all they need to know about their
total lack of humanity.

You seem almost proud to be associated with such trash.

Schwab711

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Re: The Bitter Hostility of the Left
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2019, 08:04:59 AM »
http://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax.ca/forum/politics/time-for-impeachment/msg372337/#msg372337

I agree Trumps fight with McCain was a waste of time, but John came after Trump hard - and Trump nuked him.
He will always be a war hero in my book, but McCain let the personal stuff stop him from doing his job.
It's a sideshow that Trump should have avoided.

Stuff like that is not too important to me

http://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax.ca/forum/politics/the-fallen-patriot!/msg365445/#msg365445

   The term “hero” is often misused today. The guy who successfully lands his plane on the water is not a hero, he is a damned good pilot. The hero is someone who takes great risks to save others.

   In July 1967 when the USS Forrestal’s flight deck burst into flame and with aircraft and bombs exploding killing over 100, McCain risked his life to rescue a fellow pilot and was wounded by bomb fragments for his efforts.

   A few months later he was shot down over Hanoi. With a fractured leg and tow fractured arms he then had his shoulder crushed with a rifle butt and was bayoneted while being taken prisoner.

   After a year of gruesome torture and imprisonment that nearly killed him, he was offered release when the enemy discovered his father was Admiral McCain. However refused to accept preferential treatment unless his fellow prisoners were released with him.

      He endured two years of solitary confinement and regular beatings the five and a half years he remained a prisoner. He was released in 1975.

   Trump had five deferments, and took every advantage of his father’s wealth. Yet this gutless wonder has the audacity to attack McCain who has been dead for seven months.

   Trump lied about McCain’s academic standing and at the same time he has own lawyers threaten lawsuits against any of his alma maters who release any of his own school  marks.

That's a great post - McCain is definitely a hero - and Trump should have never gone there. The guy definitely makes mistakes.

What happened in June that made you say John deserved it? Did Bill Maher make a mistake? Why did you say this type of stuff wasn't important, but now it is? You seem to flip-flop a lot.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2019, 08:20:07 AM by Schwab711 »

cubsfan

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Re: The Bitter Hostility of the Left
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2019, 08:23:15 AM »
Obviously Schwab - you can't read - I said Trump should have not gone there and I meant it.

McCain egged him on, and Trump went nuclear on him, which was very unfortunate and roundly condemned.

McCain is and always will be a war hero in my book. End of story.


But true to form Schwab - you love to split hairs and parse words to your benefit. It didn't work for your imaginary
Russian Hoax and it won't here.

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Re: The Bitter Hostility of the Left
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2019, 08:27:37 AM »
You keep mentioning Trump was roundly condemned. I'm not talking about what anyone else has done. I'm asking you about your words. I'm not parsing, I left links to the full quotes, in context (if I was parsing, I would have conveniently omitted the March 2019 post).

You made an excuse for Trump later after previously fully agreeing with cwericb. What changed?
You said Trump made a mistake. Did Bill Maher make a mistake? Why or why not?
You said this stuff wasn't important to you, but now it appears as if Bill Maher's comments are important to you. What changed?
« Last Edit: August 26, 2019, 08:41:24 AM by Schwab711 »

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Re: The Bitter Hostility of the Left
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2019, 11:12:01 AM »
As a member of the American "Left" let me tell you: we're just getting started.  The Open Hostility of the Right has run rampant and unopposed for 50 years in the US.   We're taking off the gloves now.

This isn't going to be like the 1960's where you guys commanded German Shephards to bite the faces of African-Americans trying to vote and could claim to have integrity.  This isn't going to like the 1980's where you guys knew AIDS was killing homosexuals en masse and could go to dinner without interruption.  This isn't going to be like the 1990's where you could go on TV and claim Bill Clinton had Vince Foster murdered and you weren't laughed off the screen.   And we're not going to let the Right strip babies/toddlers from their parents, cage them at the border and deny them basic care without being labeled a POS.  We're not going to let Trump's DOJ argue in court that it's OK to fire someone for being gay (which they are doing in federal court right now) without being called a miserable maggot of a person.

This is your final hurrah.  Trump isn't going to be able to ask for the help of an enemy country to throw the election for him this time around (which Mueller found to be true; Mueller just said they were too dumb to know it's illegal.)  Any kid that is graduating high-school right now that makes fun of minorities or people of a different religion or homosexuals or doesn't give a shit about having a clean planet or believe taking advantage of drunk girls is just "boys being boys" is a laughing stock of the school.  That's why the incels have retreated into the shadows of the internet. 

Buckle up buddy.  Trump isn't going to be remembered as JFK 2.0; he's going to be remembered as Jefferson Davis 2.0.