Author Topic: Trump aims to remove citizenship from American-born children of immigrants  (Read 3091 times)

LC

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President Trump plans to sign an executive order that would remove the right to citizenship for babies of non-citizens and unauthorized immigrants born on U.S. soil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0d21nQBY8o

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Gregmal

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Good. We shouldn't be rewarding criminals.

Unless of course these people are ok with being separated from the kid, who would be a legal citizen, while the trespasser(criminal) gets sent packing. Gotta make up their minds...

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


There's an underlying respect for humanity in that paragraph which you are lacking.
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If we want to let thieves keep what they steal, then there shouldn't be anyone shocked that we have a problem with thievery...If there's never any consequences for ones actions, and in fact, net rewards, well, no wonder the system is a disaster. It's largely why Wall Street is so fucked up. Screw the pension fund to make $6M? Sure, I'll settle with the SEC for $250K....

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Yea I don't think an unborn child is "stealing" anything.
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Yea I don't think an unborn child is "stealing" anything.

Nope, the child is just being exploited.

Let's not pretend the entire focal point of this centers on people deliberately throwing themselves across the border at 9 months hoping to take advantage of the system. It's amazing the lengths some go to justify actions that blatantly go against both the spirit of the laws, and in many cases even the letter of it. The reason he's looking to change this is because so many crooks are exploiting it.

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Yea I don't think an unborn child is "stealing" anything.

Nope, the child is just being exploited.

And so let's punish the child even more?
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Gregmal

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Yea I don't think an unborn child is "stealing" anything.

Nope, the child is just being exploited.

And so let's punish the child even more?

Many American children are unfairly punished or face consequences for the acts of stupid or criminal parents. So for these ones? Yea, tough shit.

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So no worries, it should be easy enough to change the constitution right?

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I always thought (as a non-American) it is really weird to award citizenship based on location of birth. Not many countries do that (but then again, US worldwide taxation on worldwide income of non-resident citizens is way stranger).
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