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DTEJD1997

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Re: Trump is right to call out democrats for destroying Baltimore
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2019, 07:19:05 AM »
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There has been little to NO criticism of some of these cities for DECADES.  For years, if you criticized ANYTHING about Detroit, you would be labeled as a radical racist.
That backlash exists because this criticism is often cherry-picked and directed at the wrong people.

For example, as Sanjeev just posted, Kushner's Slumlord Co. is directly contributing to the "infestation" in Baltimore.
Yet where is the criticism of Kushner? It is absent, instead we get treated to:

Why aren't Democrats called out on the fact that they have been running these cities like this for DECADES and they are in a shambles. One other thing that should also be called out is the idea that Black leadership would solve problems. IT HASN'T. The cities which have had black political leadership the longest are some of the worst in America.

If Jared does indeed have bad properties, then he should catch criticism too.

Words on the interweb cannot even BEGIN to describe what has happened and been going on in Detroit.

If you could magically teleport a resident from 1942 into present day Detroit they would think the Nazi's or Imperial Japan won WWII and we were bombed into oblivion.  Take them just outside of Downtown down Gratiot Ave. all the way to Eight Mile Road.

Instead, if you took that 1942 resident down VanDyke to 8 mile, they might think that instead of losing WWII, we were invaded by Martians or aliens.  The devastation is simply incredible.  It makes Baltimore look prosperous and well run.

Things are SO BAD that there are many areas of the city where there are now farms being set up.  Everything has been burned down and there is now swaths of land so big that crops can be commercially grown.

The last Republican mayor of Detroit was Louis Miriani in 1962. 

The destruction & rot of Detroit has been taking place not long after that.

Is it all the fault of Democrat politicians?  No, of course not...but they certainly had a hand in it.


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Re: Trump is right to call out democrats for destroying Baltimore
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2019, 09:11:18 AM »
Trump is making a fool out of everyone.

Years ago when Obama was the President, Trump blamed Obama for the issues in Baltimore. Now that he is the President, he is blaming the Congressman. This is classic Trump. So the buck doesn't stop at his desk.

Trump solely exists not to solve issues, but to rile people up, set things on fire, watch and comment on the ensuing confusion. Trump is a good litmus test for CoBF racists to come out.

This too shall pass.

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Re: Trump is right to call out democrats for destroying Baltimore
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2019, 09:26:57 AM »
Trump is making a fool out of everyone.

Years ago when Obama was the President, Trump blamed Obama for the issues in Baltimore. Now that he is the President, he is blaming the Congressman. This is classic Trump. So the buck doesn't stop at his desk.

Trump solely exists not to solve issues, but to rile people up, set things on fire, watch and comment on the ensuing confusion. Trump is a good litmus test for CoBF racists to come out.

This too shall pass.

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Re: Trump is right to call out democrats for destroying Baltimore
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2019, 09:43:30 AM »
DTEJ, we both know the root cause of Detroit's fall has been the decline of the US automotive industry.

Just as it's difficult for the Owner-Operator to see the melting ice cube, much less subsequently turnaround the failing company, so too was the case in Detroit. Could politicans have done better? Most likely, and they deserve proportionate criticism. But to say they could have prevented the fall of Detroit, is simply obstinate.

If Jared does indeed have bad properties, then he should catch criticism too.

Absolutely - and he too deserves proportionate blame.


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Re: Trump is right to call out democrats for destroying Baltimore
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2019, 09:58:22 AM »
DTEJ, we both know the root cause of Detroit's fall has been the decline of the US automotive industry.

Just as it's difficult for the Owner-Operator to see the melting ice cube, much less subsequently turnaround the failing company, so too was the case in Detroit. Could politicans have done better? Most likely, and they deserve proportionate criticism. But to say they could have prevented the fall of Detroit, is simply obstinate.

If Jared does indeed have bad properties, then he should catch criticism too.

Absolutely - and he too deserves proportionate blame.

LC:

No doubt the problems of the USA auto industry has been a huge factor in the decline of Detroit...but I can ASSURE you that the politicians had a large amount to do with it also.  I was born & raised here, and now live here once again after a 25 year absence.

Coleman Young was one of the most stupidest, racist, ignorant mayors that could ever be imagined (and was also a hard core Democrat).  He (and his associates) didn't have a substantial hand in the destruction of Detroit?

What of Kwame Kilpatrick?  He was so stupid he got caught and is/has been in prison for many years.  He didn't have a substantial hand in the further destruction of the city?

I could go on & on & on.  Rest assured, the politicians here exacerbated and caused many of the problems!


One of a myriad examples of this is the case of Hamtramck.  Hamtramck used to house workers that mainly worked in the Dodge & Packard plants.  Both of those factories closed many, many, many years ago.  Hamtramck is still a working class city, vibrant, and has a bombed out/abandoned house rate of 1% (maybe less).  Not that Hamtramck is perfect, but it is in a whole different class than Detroit.  Compare it to Detroit.  Hamtramck suffered the same economic problems of Detroit, but yet it's fate was/is entirely different.


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Re: Trump is right to call out democrats for destroying Baltimore
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2019, 10:19:20 AM »
This is fair but take a look at Washington DC and Marion Barry. Hell, go back further to Boss Tweed in NYC. Incompetent and corrupt on a grand scale.

But these cities continue to prosper because they have sustainable industry. Detroit never found a way to diversify. And make no mistake, if Detroit were still pumping out America's cars, the dance would keep on going.
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Re: Trump is right to call out democrats for destroying Baltimore
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2019, 01:09:35 PM »
This is fair but take a look at Washington DC and Marion Barry. Hell, go back further to Boss Tweed in NYC. Incompetent and corrupt on a grand scale.

But these cities continue to prosper because they have sustainable industry. Detroit never found a way to diversify. And make no mistake, if Detroit were still pumping out America's cars, the dance would keep on going.

Don't forget the role Unions played in destroying the auto industry (specifically in Detroit) and northern Ohio.

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Re: Trump is right to call out democrats for destroying Baltimore
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2019, 02:03:02 PM »
Trump is making a fool out of everyone.

Years ago when Obama was the President, Trump blamed Obama for the issues in Baltimore. Now that he is the President, he is blaming the Congressman. This is classic Trump. So the buck doesn't stop at his desk.

Trump solely exists not to solve issues, but to rile people up, set things on fire, watch and comment on the ensuing confusion. Trump is a good litmus test for CoBF racists to come out.

This too shall pass.

Trump is a change agent - and is right to call out a career politician like Cummings that is not doing his job, taking care of his constituents.
The most powerful thing you can do with these politicians is shine a bright light on them, so they are embarrassed or voted out of office.
Politics is messy and ugly.

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Re: Trump is right to call out democrats for destroying Baltimore
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2019, 02:12:04 PM »
Wait, why is Kushner now responsible or a hypocrite because he owns properties in Baltimore??? This is the stupid distraction stuff the left does. It's not Jared's responsibility to fix that shit hole. Same way these twitter losers freak out about how Ivanka can't help promote child wellness programs because there are children in detention centers, or how Melania cant promote women rights because Trump is a misogynist. Just bullshit distractions meant to discredit people they dont like.

And I say all this not liking silver spoon weasel Jared one bit. I guess rather than Jared... these lefty idiots would rather have the NYCHA or the Baltimore equivalent run it? Uh yea, they've been completely quiet about that disaster....like I said, just hypocrites.

No ones saying that Jared has to fix Baltimore.  But he should fix his slumlord buildings...that contributes to the problem in Baltimore.  He has 20,000 people living in his Baltimore slums!  That would go a long ways to fixing his share of the problem...and he's the President's son-in-law...the same President complaining about what a shithole Baltimore is!  Geez, if his son-in-law is one of the prime problems and isn't fixing his responsibilities, why would anyone else do it?  Cheers!
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Re: Trump is right to call out democrats for destroying Baltimore
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2019, 02:42:42 PM »
This is fair but take a look at Washington DC and Marion Barry. Hell, go back further to Boss Tweed in NYC. Incompetent and corrupt on a grand scale.

But these cities continue to prosper because they have sustainable industry. Detroit never found a way to diversify. And make no mistake, if Detroit were still pumping out America's cars, the dance would keep on going.

Yes, I think it is more than fair...but if you look at the Detroit metro area, no other city (exception of Highland Park) has fared WORSE than Detroit.  It ain't even close, and this is an understatement.  This is also true for cities with heavy manufacturing, not just the elite suburbs.  Dearborn & Warren are but two examples of this. 

So how did all these other cities that are so intricately tied into heavy manufacturing (steel, autos, trucks), that are adjacent to Detroit (sharing a border in many instances), stay in so much better condition than Detroit?