Author Topic: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful  (Read 2404 times)

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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2018, 07:28:34 PM »
He's still not got anyone running the VA, and now it seems he's going to cancel his trip to visit the troops on the border "protecting" us from the caravan.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-is-preparing-to-remove-kirstjen-nielsen-as-homeland-security-secretary-aides-say/2018/11/12/77111496-e6b0-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html

This is poor leadership

It must be those Russians again - since Trump is in Putin's pocket according to you!

Frankly, it seems the only reason he even took the trip to Europe was to meet with Putin.
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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2018, 08:43:34 PM »
"You last President did not WILLFULLY hurt the United States - he NAIVELY hurt the United States. Obama was not unpatriotic. He was weak and naive - and ignored the lessons of history.  He was Neville Chamberlain. Trump is not."

Unfortunately he was a lot more evil than Neville Chamberlain and a lot more incompetent. Neville did realize he had been duped.

All he was good at was making a big show of killing Bin Laden.

I would say that close to 1 million people died because of the actions of Obama and Hillary Clinton by encouraging the Arab Spring, leaving Iraq on its own. Think of the mess in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yemen, rise of ISIS (which he always called by a different name so that people could not understand). These are all consequences from their actions.

2017 and 2018 must be so far the years in history where humanity has seen the least number of violent death per million people.

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The Arab spring started when a shopkeeper in Tunisia decided to light himself up out of protest, the US or Obama had nothing to do with it. itís wasnít really foreseeable that it ended up causing a disaster in Syria and even if one could have foreseen it, it was probably not preventable. Obama ran his campaign on thr promise on pulling the troups out of Iraq and Afghanistan and I believe that was the right decision, otherwise US soldiers would still be there with no end in sight.
We will see if Trump walks the talk, so far everyone seem to walk over him - the rocketman, Putin and his Saudi friends who get away with chopping up a journalist in the embassy of a NATO state. The problems in the Middle East were there before Obama came into power and will be there after Trump leaves there office and I donít think there is all that much that the US can do about it.
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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2018, 03:43:28 AM »
Yes, the problems of the Middle East will always be there.

But ceding the region to Iran and abandoning Israel clearly leads to further chaos and terrorism.

His withdrawal from Iraq wasted the lives of those who served and died there.
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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2018, 05:56:52 AM »
"The Arab spring started when a shopkeeper in Tunisia decided to light himself up out of protest, the US or Obama had nothing to do with it. itís wasnít really foreseeable that it ended up causing a disaster in Syria and even if one could have foreseen it, it was probably not preventable. Obama ran his campaign on thr promise on pulling the troups out of Iraq and Afghanistan and I believe that was the right decision, otherwise US soldiers would still be there with no end in sight."

There was no call to overturn the government in Tunisia and what happened? Things returned to "normal".

On the other hand, Hillary and Obama encouraged and supported the overturn of both Khadafi and Assad with disastrous consequences or civil wars that cost 100,000's of deaths and population displacement on the scale of World War II in Europe.

They should have known better didn't they? A Saudi co-worker of mine had mentioned the high risks that Bush was taking by invading Iraq and overturning Sadam: 3 different ethnic groups being held together by one strong man. So a common man knew of this risk before it even happened.

Then after the previous administration opened that pandora box, Hillary and Barack did it again in Libya and Syria.

Then they also pull out fully of Iraq leaving a void... What were we doing in Afghanistan and Somalia if not trying to eliminate such zones with no laws so that terrorist could train and floorish?

And what about Egypt? Do you recall them handing power to the Muslim Brotherhood? It got really close to another civil war. Finally somebody woke-up it seems.

And by the way, if Trump fucks up in North Korea and is leading a misleading campaign as we discuss this, I promise you that I will be the first to blame him. However so far, it is hard to argue that we leave in a peaceful world and let's hope it continues.

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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2018, 07:22:00 AM »
Even the Orange Head''s...

Why do you find it appropriate to make fun of the color of our president's skin?

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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2018, 07:33:40 AM »
I'm not the one you asked, of course, but it seems like fake tanning - as it relates to vanity, etc - has been 'fair game' for comedy.  This is distinct from comedy based on the color of the skin a person was born with.  It doesn't seem inappropriate to make jokes about the fake tanning extremes of actors on the "Jersey Shore" television series (to me at least).  Our current president is a big fan of the tanning bed, and the covers he wears over his eyes while tanning create noticeable patches of natural skin tone surrounding his eyes.

At least I think that is where the poster was going with the "orange" comments.  Not exactly a racial slur, but in the land of the Washington Redskins, who knows what is what anymore..

Even the Orange Head''s...

Why do you find it appropriate to make fun of the color of our president's skin?

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Re: Orange Headed Trump's Behavior in France Truly Shameful
« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2018, 08:21:11 AM »
I'm not the one you asked, of course, but it seems like fake tanning - as it relates to vanity, etc - has been 'fair game' for comedy.  This is distinct from comedy based on the color of the skin a person was born with.  It doesn't seem inappropriate to make jokes about the fake tanning extremes of actors on the "Jersey Shore" television series (to me at least).  Our current president is a big fan of the tanning bed, and the covers he wears over his eyes while tanning create noticeable patches of natural skin tone surrounding his eyes.

At least I think that is where the poster was going with the "orange" comments.  Not exactly a racial slur, but in the land of the Washington Redskins, who knows what is what anymore..

Even the Orange Head''s...

Why do you find it appropriate to make fun of the color of our president's skin?

Very well stated globalfinancepartners---my views are accurately reflected in your reply.

Furthermore, I addressed Trump as "Orange Head" because of the way he addresses so many others (e.g., "Little Marco", "Low Energy Jeb", "Lyin Ted"etc). In my view, and I respect that many others strongly disagree with me on this, he does not deserve to be addressed as President Trump.

Actually, my full name for him is "Orange Head Small Hands". I apologize to anyone I offended by only using the short form "Orange Head" in my earlier post.