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Re: USA foreign and UN aid reform
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2018, 02:41:18 PM »
Her statement is ridiculous on many fronts. She puts the cart before the horse. But we can all draw our own interpretations. How about this:

Giving them over a billion dollars, and they continue to harbor terrorists that turn around and kill our soldiers

Let's just pull our soldiers out, and then everything is hunky-dory.
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Re: USA foreign and UN aid reform
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2018, 02:49:53 PM »
LC

Pull out troops out and continue to provide aid to known sponsors of terror.  I bet you like Iran as well.

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Re: USA foreign and UN aid reform
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2018, 03:00:53 PM »
You realize the only reason we spend so much aid in Pakistan is because they have a terrorism problem, right?
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Re: USA foreign and UN aid reform
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2018, 03:13:02 PM »
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You realize that when a nation harbors terrorists it makes them a sponsor of terrorism, right? 

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Re: USA foreign and UN aid reform
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2018, 04:13:59 PM »
I don't see what your point is. All you did was put another label on it.

Call Pakistan the "Divine Cesspool circling the Black Hole of Terrorism Sponsorship" for all I care.

It's a problem and the US government has decided to try and "fix it".

We can argue over the methods of "fixing it", or even whether we should be "fixing it". But the original post and this Nikki Haley person are misrepresenting the situation with those quoted comments and supplied facts.
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Re: USA foreign and UN aid reform
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2018, 04:30:06 PM »
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When you harbor terrorists you become by extension a terrorist.  We shouldn't be giving money to "Divine Cesspool circling the Black Hole of Terrorism Sponsorship" like Pakistan and Iran.

I'm certain that Nicky Haley, the United States Ambassador to the United Nations, would love to know how she is misrepresenting the facts.  I'm sure others on this board would love to be educated by you as well.  Please ... educate us! 
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Re: USA foreign and UN aid reform
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2018, 04:47:10 PM »
You may want to read this book

The Wrong Enemy: America in Afghanistan, 2001-2014 1st Edition
by Carlotta Gall (Author)


Carlotta Gall has reported from Afghanistan and Pakistan for almost the entire duration of the American invasion and occupation, beginning shortly after 9/11. She knows just how much this war has cost the Afghan people, and how much damage can be traced to Pakistan and its duplicitous government and intelligence forces. Now that American troops are withdrawing, it is time to tell the full history of how we have been fighting the wrong enemy, in the wrong country.

Gall combines searing personal accounts of battles and betrayals with moving portraits of the ordinary Afghanis who endured a terrible war of more than a decade. Her firsthand accounts of Taliban warlords, Pakistani intelligence thugs, American generals, Afghani politicians, and the many innocents who were caught up in this long war are riveting.  Her evidence that Pakistan fueled the Taliban and protected Osama bin Laden is revelatory. This is a sweeping account of a war brought by well-intentioned American leaders against an enemy they barely understood, and could not truly engage.


I don't see what your point is. All you did was put another label on it.

Call Pakistan the "Divine Cesspool circling the Black Hole of Terrorism Sponsorship" for all I care.

It's a problem and the US government has decided to try and "fix it".

We can argue over the methods of "fixing it", or even whether we should be "fixing it". But the original post and this Nikki Haley person are misrepresenting the situation with those quoted comments and supplied facts.

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Re: USA foreign and UN aid reform
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2018, 04:54:16 PM »
I didn't write my response with striken parts.

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Re: USA foreign and UN aid reform
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2018, 05:57:33 PM »
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I'm certain that Nicky Haley, the United States Ambassador to the United Nations, would love to know how she is misrepresenting the facts.  I'm sure others on this board would love to be educated by you as well.  Please ... educate us!

She is suggesting that the US supplies Pakistan with aid, which is then turned around and used to "Fight America":

But we don’t need to be giving money to countries that say “Death to America.”

The point is that a large portion of our aid is directly to fight those who say "death to america".

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Re: USA foreign and UN aid reform
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2018, 06:59:14 PM »
Go make that argument to the families of the slain soldiers, LC.