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wachtwoord

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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2017, 03:34:38 AM »
People on the right need to be aware that their rights are under attack and this puts a spotlight on it.  Her career is now toast.  I see her as a martyr.

These 3 people interrugating her are doing much worst than the vast majority of the #metoo accused in abusing their position to push through their personal believes. On top of that they do it in an academic setting and take sides on issues from a position of authority. They don't deserve to use the words 'scientific method' as they clearly don't understand what it entails or have no respect for it. They need to be named and shamed across mass media and have their careers destroyed. But hey, the (left wing controlled ) mainstream news outlets certainly won't do that as they are just the same.

We need to start making lists of these monsters so if anyone runs into them you can refuse to do business with them or deal with them in any fashion, in effect isolating them.

The sad part is that this is common in universities (especially sociology and social studies related) but generally there is no proof.
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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2017, 08:47:38 AM »
Lack of political diversity in campus:
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-politics-of-the-professoriat-political-diversity-on-campus-1.4280778

The irony of killing (political) diversity to promote diversity...


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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2017, 11:51:52 AM »
People on the right need to be aware that their rights are under attack and this puts a spotlight on it.  Her career is now toast.  I see her as a martyr.

These 3 people interrugating her are doing much worst than the vast majority of the #metoo accused in abusing their position to push through their personal believes. On top of that they do it in an academic setting and take sides on issues from a position of authority. They don't deserve to use the words 'scientific method' as they clearly don't understand what it entails or have no respect for it. They need to be named and shamed across mass media and have their careers destroyed. But hey, the (left wing controlled ) mainstream news outlets certainly won't do that as they are just the same.

We need to start making lists of these monsters so if anyone runs into them you can refuse to do business with them or deal with them in any fashion, in effect isolating them.

The sad part is that this is common in universities (especially sociology and social studies related) but generally there is no proof.

Hey all:

Academia in the West has been corrupted.  I think it first started with the money, now it has spread to ideology.

While corruption is terrible, and very well may well lead to the downfall of the West...this is probably a long term, multi-generational process.  I think the more immediate problem may be is where do these "leftists" go next if they are not put in check?  My guess is that they start attacking each other.  This has already started.  Who wants to bet that within a year from this Thanksgiving, the left will have totally turned on the Clintons?  This is already starting...

Once all the ideologically impure members of the left have been culled, then what?

I will guess that they start going after EVERYBODY who is not part of the protected class OR anybody who disagrees with them.  I would be willing to bet that these SJW's on the left will be calling for "re-education camps" or even worse.  It has happened before, and certainly could happen again.

The time to stop them is now....

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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2017, 01:04:00 PM »
The place for radicals is a university, and the more radical they are  - the better it is for everybody. Everybody grows old & complacent.
Worst that happens is someone says the wrong thing, gets into a fight, and ends up in hospital for a time; the organized get a needle, and a visit from the men in black.

Most often the issues are real, & should be addressed going forward.
Fail to address them, & society runs the risk of ambitious people using them to push their own agendas. An outcome that often ends sadly.

Cultural appropriation has been the norm for almost all history.
One simply invaded a neighbor, & told them they were all going to follow 'your way' from this day forth; anybody who objected lost their head (ending protest). The 'conquered' simply 'assimilated', and then slowly converted the 'conquerer' to 'their way'. Whichever way was best for the local conditions survived, and the hybridization process made everybody better.     

Let them protest.
 
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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2017, 07:47:42 PM »
We need to start making lists of these monsters so if anyone runs into them you can refuse to do business with them or deal with them in any fashion, in effect isolating them.

Really? This was the mentality of a certain German regime, it doesn't work because it's dehumanizing. This is not how solutions emerge, only how conflict is needlessly escalated.
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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2017, 10:17:52 PM »
Seriously? You guys are now freaking out about the snowflakes? Jeez...

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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2017, 01:49:29 AM »
We need to start making lists of these monsters so if anyone runs into them you can refuse to do business with them or deal with them in any fashion, in effect isolating them.

Really? This was the mentality of a certain German regime, it doesn't work because it's dehumanizing. This is not how solutions emerge, only how conflict is needlessly escalated.

It is when the damn monsters are heading universities. They need to be removed.

I'm always surprised how the German regime you are referring to is implicated with the political right. They were national socialists (hence the name of their party NSDAP) and are of the same side we should be looking to fight. It's the natural end-station of any nationalist socialist movement as they love giving all power to the government and similar institutions to protect and want to ban and delegitimize certain opinions and facts they don't agree with.

Socialist propaganda was quite successful it seems.
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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2017, 02:14:43 AM »
My comment was on effective problem solving techniques, not which side is right or wrong or liberal or conservative.

SD (as usual) put it eloquently: The place for radicals is a university. My addition is that there are radicals on either end of the political spectrum, and each has legitimate gripes.

What really bothers me is the divisiveness which undermines efforts towards any solution. And this isn't directed at you, it's a general comment. I've seen it from both "sides". Each has their own way of saying: "Let's put all those problem people in a group and systematically dismiss them". And then they go on to tell you how, e.g. "The liberals are all snowflakes", "The conservatives are all regressive" etc. My response is, Has ignoring a problem ever solved it?
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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2017, 03:55:00 AM »
Hey, but at least you don't have Trump. So much more civilised to have a teenager who wants to hug the world running the place. You reap what you sow.

Tough to be liberal, leftist and not end up socialist only to realise after a few million dead people that for one, yes God did create man and woman and trying to deny the obvious is insane. Socialism eats its young and to think that Canada only has a intellectual problem limited to its universities is naive.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/easter-bunny-1.4067854

To invert and from a non-Christian point of view: Why would such behaviour by the professors shock you? Why the hell can they not do it and who are you to tell me that I cannot stand behind those professors 100%? There is no absolute truth right, so ultimately let me decide what I like and if there is enough of us then we'll simply get rid of those who disagree. Happening in front of your very eyes already. Don't like what we say, we'll come down hard. Don't like the way we tell you to raise kids, we'll take them.

I love Canada, two of my kids are Canadian, but the place scares the living daylights out of me.


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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2017, 05:37:43 AM »
Comment and Question.

-There are exceptions but I find one ("us") may have more in common than it superficially appears with others who are "different" ("them").

-Let's say I agree that we need to move in a certain direction along the collective/individual spectrum, can you elaborate on: "...so ultimately let me decide what I like and if there is enough of us then we'll simply get rid of those who disagree... Don't like what we say, we'll come down hard."?