Author Topic: What the heck is going on at universities??  (Read 8180 times)

MrB

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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2017, 07:02:26 AM »
Comment and Question.

-There are exceptions but I find one ("us") may have more in common than it superficially appears with others who are "different" ("them").

-Let's say I agree that we need to move in a certain direction along the collective/individual spectrum, can you elaborate on: "...so ultimately let me decide what I like and if there is enough of us then we'll simply get rid of those who disagree... Don't like what we say, we'll come down hard."?
The elitists in the (socialist) tribe will decide the direction/spectrum and the collective and individuals will be separated with the latter risking to ultimately be added to the estimated 100m-200m body count. There is no place for the individual and this girl at the university and the couple in Hamilton is finding this out.

I don't expect you to agree with it, but humans are inherently evil and once we try and ignore God and run things ourselves (no place for God in socialism) then you reap the whirlwind. Canada is aggressively purging itself of Christians and embracing socialism and no better example than telling Christian parents you will take their kids unless they raise them according to the dictates of the collective rather than our Creator https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-ontario-passes-totalitarian-bill-allowing-govt-to-take-kids-from-c
How far do you think you need to travel to get from telling a family how to raise their kids to shooting someone for not doing it? History is simply repeating itself.

If you ask your question under the assumption that we all live under the 2nd greatest commandment of "love your neighbour as you love yourself" you have a different outcome and if those professors and the girl pursued that ideal, maybe the conversation would have sounded and ended differently.  Emptying yourself for the one next to you is only achieved through grace, but us humans including myself don't like to hear that. Such is life; we're not good at learning from our mistakes.


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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2017, 07:21:23 AM »
University professors, generally speaking are the worst. A lot of them are genuine and care. But generally they are people(especially in the business colleges) who had short and unproductive professional careers who now stroke their egos by reciting textbooks and a rehashed version of their own careers, but in a glorified light. Then you also have the career professors who live in the academia bubble and have no clue that what works in theory in a textbook doesn't always pan out in real life. I've read something that like 85%+ are bleeding heart liberals too. There is little more stimulating to the ego than having a captive audience of malleable minds for 3 hours a week.

What's funny is the worst I'd ever personally experienced was a guy who was a walking cartoon. 6'5 white dude from Georgia, jacked as hell, loud raspy voice. Aggressive. He also happened to hate white men(the females he would line up in the front row and blatantly hit on). He would incessantly rant about how the world just f*cks blacks, Hispanics, and homosexuals. 90% of his breathe was spent screaming about social injustices. He was an English teacher. One of the more accomplished as well. I sought out his classes because if you told him what he wanted to hear, it was a guaranteed A. He would routinely manipulate Shakespeare sonnets into rants on modern day inequality and discrimination lectures that ended with him throwing chairs across the room and punching holes in the walls. It was quite the show. Our final exam(50% of the overall grade) was an in class essay. The subject? What was Shakespeare saying in his sonnets about the treatment of gays and Jews in the 2000's! Yes this was a graduate level English course!

Well fast forward a decade plus, and I was scrolling through the New York Post and found this.

https://nypost.com/2017/03/28/teacher-allegedly-tried-seducing-student-with-shakespeare/

Wasnt surprising one bit. What was originally suprising was that this guy was still teaching, even when I was in school as a decade prior he was kicked out of a super liberal west coast university for beating up a 21 year old student who happened to be the ex-boyfriend of a 20 year old student that he was currently dating.



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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2017, 07:55:09 AM »
Tomorrows politician is in today's political science class, cutting their teeth in today's more toxic 'protest' environment.
The best on all  sides will rise to the top, & clash against each other on the way up. Prize fights aren't pretty, but the result is that every 'winner' knows how to use that environment, and becomes very good at what they do. Every politician has to learn how to stay alive, and character assassination has long been an instrument of statecraft.

Allowing the protests, free speech, manipulation and passion an outlet; lets words and ideas replace bullets, and bombs. Way safer for everybody, but the processes have to be allowed to run their course. Hearing contrary opinion, whether we want to or not, is a healthy thing.

Most politicians aren't graceful losers. The civilized approach is an opposition bench, and isolation of the tone deaf.
Those who opt for the violent solutions meet the men in black.

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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2017, 09:57:21 AM »
I love Canada, two of my kids are Canadian, but the place scares the living daylights out of me.
You are terrified by .... Canada? Wow!

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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2017, 10:12:04 AM »
rb, could you be more obnoxious?  Would you care to actually respond to the real arguments listed.  E.g. people being disciplined at universities for offering a differing view point.

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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2017, 10:51:03 AM »
CoBF scares the living daylights out of me::)

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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2017, 02:17:29 PM »
rb, could you be more obnoxious?  Would you care to actually respond to the real arguments listed.  E.g. people being disciplined at universities for offering a differing view point.
I could. I didn't try very hard.

Btw, I guessing that Mr.B musings on socialism, the impending genocide, Christianity, the Creator, and his fear of Canada etc must have been really on point regarding the disciplinary process at universities since I didn't see you have a problem with that.

But now since you've asked about universities. I wrote on the board many times that you get a big problem when you turn students into customers through ridiculous tuition fees. That's really more of a problem in the US. Not so much in Canada (except for some elite programs) though I fear that we are heading towards that way. But that's not the case here.

Canadian universities for the most part are actually pretty mainstream, conservative institutions. Wilfred Laurier definitely is. They hate headlines, they hate controversy, and they do not want it nor court it. The whole freedom to explore your inner self and whatever cooky ideas you may have is more a thing that goes on the glossy brochure they hand out teenagers than a real thing. Yea they'll allow a lot of stuff but when something comes close to controversy or wing nuttery (right or left) they'll slam on the breaks pretty hard.

That meeting was total bullshit. They don't care one bit about trans people, transfobia, or whether some students may be offended. The topic and the guy in the video (Peterson) can be a hot one. The university wants to stay the hell away from that. They don't want some dumb ass 19 year old lefty launch some youtube video in search of social media fame. Basically wanted to avoid the exactly the type of situation they are in now. You just witnessed how the sausage is made.

Now did they handle this wrongly? Yes. Were the people in that meeting dumb? Yes. Will they do it differently in the future? Probably. Btw, all this stuff is really a total non issue up here.

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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2017, 04:20:21 PM »
You guys are marks for believing in formal education to begin with. The education system, at least in the United States, is largely a money laundering outfit designed to provide what amounts to make-work jobs for the "elites."

People on the right need to be aware that their rights are under attack and this puts a spotlight on it.  Her career is now toast.  I see her as a martyr.

You might appreciate this song, No Free Lunch. The whole western world is under assault and nobody wants to do ANYTHING about it!

https://youtu.be/tH4p_MX4YG8?t=5s
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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2017, 05:52:43 PM »
Just cut funding to the humanities. Problem solved. I don't see why taxpayers should be compelled to fund this moron who believes there is no such thing as biological sex:
https://youtu.be/jcDKCmC9gWU?t=40s

He is a U of T professor:
http://sds.utoronto.ca/people/instructors/440-2/

I mean he is a fucking idiot. As a professor he should be representative of the shared understanding and knowledge of a whole society that has been painstakingly been accumulated over centuries of experience. Does anyone think he comes close?

I really don't get how even liberals are not outraged by this. In any other field this level of incompetence would not be tolerated.

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Re: What the heck is going on at universities??
« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2017, 06:25:20 PM »
Just cut funding to the humanities. Problem solved. I don't see why taxpayers should be compelled to fund this moron who believes there is no such thing as biological sex:
https://youtu.be/jcDKCmC9gWU?t=40s

He is a U of T professor:
http://sds.utoronto.ca/people/instructors/440-2/

I mean he is a fucking idiot. As a professor he should be representative of the shared understanding and knowledge of a whole society that has been painstakingly been accumulated over centuries of experience. Does anyone think he comes close?

I really don't get how even liberals are not outraged by this. In any other field this level of incompetence would not be tolerated.

It's time to wake up and realize that formal education is bullshit and has been for decades. The push towards making it nearly mandatory to attend college has created a very helpful brainwashing tool for those in power.

When you realize that the education system has no integrity, you stop expecting it to behave in a way that is sensible. And then its behavior makes a whole lot more sense.
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