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Re: Buy Berkshire!
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2009, 07:15:46 AM »
GE, BRK and WFC are all down significantly. I guess that those who would like to buy them are salivating now.



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Re: Buy Berkshire!
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2009, 07:22:38 AM »
I just bought some BRK.  Again this year, I remain fully hedged against equity markets however.

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Re: Buy Berkshire!
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2009, 07:33:22 AM »
GE, BRK and WFC are all down significantly. I guess that those who would like to buy them are salivating now.



I just picked some GE up at $9.30

Sniffing at some BRK now.

Interesting times.
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Re: Buy Berkshire!
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2009, 07:44:04 AM »
I think that on an unhedged basis, there is probably more money to be made in select corporate bonds more so than equities.  In equities, I am sticking with highest quality stocks yet staying hedged as I believe quality will outperform.

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Re: Buy Berkshire!
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2009, 07:45:50 AM »
I just bought some BRK.  Again this year, I remain fully hedged against equity markets however.

Just picked up some BRK.B as well. Too good to pass up.

Mungerville, if you don't mind me asking what vehicle have you used to hedge and what do you think is the least expensive hedge at this juncture?
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Re: Buy Berkshire!
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2009, 07:56:26 AM »
Hi,

Check which is cheaper if you are buying - the B shares were 6% cheaper than 1/30th of the price of the A shares a few minutes ago. Buffett recommended you buy the Bs if they are 2% cheaper than 1/30th of the price of the A shares ...

Dave

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Re: Buy Berkshire!
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2009, 08:06:12 AM »
In terms of the puts, they are all expensive.  I re-loaded a 10% out of the money position on XLY (consumer discretionary) in December and doubled down at 15% out of the money in late December/early January.  Even with what now looks like great timing, I have made only marginal money given time value erosion.  Its going to be tough to make substantial money in puts/hedging this year buy I hope to make a bit.

Shorting or the option equivalent of deep in the money puts is the cheapest but if the markets turn you can get burnt pretty quickly.

There is no good way at this point.  Maybe try and hedge when opportunities arise in individual securities you hold as opposed to index puts at this point.  It is very costly and some would argue there is minimal cost-benefit rationale for a long-term investor.

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Re: Buy Berkshire!
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2009, 09:05:36 AM »
Berkie is down because of the underlying stocks are down (if I had to guess) that he owns.  

Lots of wild stuff today.  Wells Series L preferred just dropped 20% today to 35% of par... 20+% yield.

For those who kept powder dry, I envy you a LOT!

Best of luck to everyone navigating this, now is the time.

Ben

Indeed it is. Picked up some BRK/B for 2280. What a bargain!  :)

I've been so busy just analyzing all the opportunities this week doing extra work that I haven't had much time to post!!!!   :o ;D

Yeah, but generally now is a good time to take a position in a good quality, safe, well run institution like BRK, or at least the time to be looking. I have been bullish in conservatism in the recent months, i.e. holding cash etc. but if you start allocating some capital throughout the year in good quality institutions it's hard to do wrong over the next 2-5 years.

All the best everyone.

« Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 11:51:30 AM by arbitragr »
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Re: Buy Berkshire!
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2009, 09:18:41 AM »
I think that on an unhedged basis, there is probably more money to be made in select corporate bonds more so than equities.  In equities, I am sticking with highest quality stocks yet staying hedged as I believe quality will outperform.

Bonds are indeed good value.
However for the average investor the bond market is almost off-limits, since the best junk bonds are usually over the counter and not readily traded via discount brokers.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 11:53:20 AM by arbitragr »
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