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petec

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Re: Fairfax acquires Brit PLC
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2015, 06:32:21 AM »
If you think that Brit investments in June 2014 were worth £2,564.2 million and FFH is using (£1,220 / 305) x 280 = £1,120 million of its cash, and you assume HWIC could earn their historical 9% return on investments, FFH in addition to Brit’s dividend could achieve another £2,564.2 x 0.09 = £231 / £1,120 = 20.6% return on the cash employed.

Furthermore, £505 million in Brit’s portfolio are cash and equivalent. Therefore, the true cash used by FFH is: £1,120 - £505 = £615 million.

Imo the market hasn't appreciated this deal highly enough! ;)

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Personally I think 9% is way too high and was boosted by the greatest bond bull run in history (unless the deflation swaps pay out big in which case 9% is not too high!).

Also, I don't think you should subtract the full £505m but only the part that is excess reserves and can be dividended to the holdco.   They don't actually own the rest.   I know you can make an argument about float being permanent capital but I think you're heading towards what I might politely call "Italian fiscal accounting standards" with that argument  ;)

Still a good deal though.
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Re: Fairfax acquires Brit PLC
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2015, 07:03:48 AM »
I know you can make an argument about float being permanent capital but I think you're heading towards what I might politely call "Italian fiscal accounting standards" with that argument  ;)

Ahahah!! ;)
No, well… When Watsa says 25% of FFH portfolio is in cash, he is thinking about float as well, either be it permanent capital or not! Right?
If you use part of that cash to buy other float held in cash, where is the difference?

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Re: Fairfax acquires Brit PLC
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2015, 08:14:01 AM »
I know you can make an argument about float being permanent capital but I think you're heading towards what I might politely call "Italian fiscal accounting standards" with that argument  ;)

Ahahah!! ;)
No, well… When Watsa says 25% of FFH portfolio is in cash, he is thinking about float as well, either be it permanent capital or not! Right?
If you use part of that cash to buy other float held in cash, where is the difference?

Gio

I think float is best regarded as a permanent loan.   In other words, if you use float to buy Brit, what you're actually doing is borrowing to buy Brit.   That doesn't increase your net worth, it merely reallocates the loan from funding a cash position to funding a position in Brit.

Over time, as Brit pays out dividends, that repays the loan, and your net worth rises that way.
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Re: Fairfax acquires Brit PLC
« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2015, 08:28:26 AM »
What I meant to say is this: FFH is giving £1,120 million in cash and among the things it will receive there are £505 million in cash…

Probably I don’t understand what I am missing! ;)

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Re: Fairfax acquires Brit PLC
« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2015, 10:43:43 AM »
my apologies if this has already been posted/discussed, but I saw this blurb from Insurance Insider in my inbox a few moments ago and found it interesting.  I have not received the entire article yet - but it sounds like Prem pulled a Warren on this negotiation -

"Watsa forestalls Brit process with snap take-it-or-leave-it bid

Fairfax Financial founder Prem Watsa prevented a potential bidding war for Brit Insurance by offering a $1.88bn binding all-cash offer just 10 days after entering into serious negotiations, and threatened to walk away if the proposal was not accepted in short order.

Sources said that the ingredients were in place for a semi-formal auction process, with at least two other parties in discussions with Brit, including an Asian strategic interest.

It is understood that one of the other parties involved was Japanese big three member Mitsui Sumitomo - the business that came closest to consummating a deal with Brit before its IPO last spring."
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Re: Fairfax acquires Brit PLC
« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2015, 10:58:10 AM »
my apologies if this has already been posted/discussed, but I saw this blurb from Insurance Insider in my inbox a few moments ago and found it interesting.  I have not received the entire article yet - but it sounds like Prem pulled a Warren on this negotiation -

"Fairfax Financial founder Prem Watsa prevented a potential bidding war for Brit Insurance by offering a $1.88bn binding all-cash offer just 10 days after entering into serious negotiations, and threatened to walk away if the proposal was not accepted in short order…"

Ha ha! Nice!

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Re: Fairfax acquires Brit PLC
« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2015, 01:44:49 AM »
If Brit PLC during the second half of 2014 has achieved results in line with the first half, net tangible assets per share might be 10% higher, therefore the right multiple paid might be: 305 / 197.3 = 1.55.

Well, it seems I was not too far off: from the 2014 AR in attachment tangible assets per share at the end of the year were 194 pps, therefore the multiple paid is: 305 / 194 = 1.57.

Cheers,

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Re: Fairfax acquires Brit PLC
« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2015, 05:52:18 AM »
Wouldn't it be better to look at Brit's excess capital?  FFH operating subs have a $25B portfolio but aside from the surplus, that belongs to the policyholders.   
(from Brit press release) After allowing for these dividends, our excess of capital resources over management entity capital requirements of £251.7m, (which is about $388M US$.

Prem always breaks out their holding company investments vs. their operating company portfolio investments.  I do not believe FFH is using their float/operating company $25B investment portfolio to buy Brit.  That will be financed and paid for from the holdco. 
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Re: Fairfax acquires Brit PLC
« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2015, 05:54:51 AM »
insurance insider article this morning -
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Brit CEO Mark Cloutier has underlined his intention to remain at the company for the foreseeable future, as well as indicating that there may be opportunities for him in the longer-term at other operations within Fairfax Financial.

In addition to publishing its full-year results this morning (25 February) - which showed a 40.5 percent jump in pre-tax profits to £149.1mn - Brit announced the promotion of Matthew Wilson from head of global specialty to group deputy CEO and CUO.

Wilson has long been assumed to be Cloutier's designated successor, which the CEO said the business has made no secret of.

"Matthew has been the architect of the significant improvement in our underwriting business, and in my view his leadership is critical to the future of the business," Cloutier told The Insurance Insider.

"That doesn't mean that I'm going anywhere soon...but it does set a clear indication of the future direction of the business."

Cloutier went on to say that there was no timetable for how long he would remain in charge at Brit, but that he intended to be at the helm for "some time", adding: "My principal job right now is to make Brit fit into Fairfax and make it a big contributor to shareholder value at Fairfax."

And hinting at future collaborations with Fairfax CEO Prem Watsa, Cloutier added: "My hope is that I'll continue to work with Matthew and the team here for the foreseeable future, and it may be that I'll have the opportunity to poke my fingers around into things that Prem may ask me to help out with."

Watsa has known Cloutier since the latter worked for Fairfax's loss adjuster Morden & Helwig. The two have remained in contact ever since, and their relationship was thought to be a key factor in the speed at which the proposed merger was agreed.

The Fairfax CEO prevented a potential bidding war for Brit by offering a $1.88bn binding all-cash offer just 10 days after entering into serious negotiations.

Commenting on the importance of his personal relationship with Watsa in getting the deal over the line quickly, Cloutier said that the fact they'd done business together in the past and knew how each other worked certainly helped.

"There have been a couple of pretty large transactions that I've been involved in with Prem where we were able to do [them] on a hand shake, the old-fashioned way. So I think a combination of a longstanding relationship and understanding of each other - and certainly from my side an appreciation of how Prem does things - was an enabler for the transaction to move very quickly," he said.

"Given we'd traded in the past, there was a level of trust that really enabled the transaction, which is what underpinned the ability of the deal to get done quickly. Given the business we're in, the market outlook and all the uncertainty facing our businesses today, a rapid, well-priced deal with the highest level of certainty was in the best interest of all of our shareholders."

Cloutier also suggested that Brit's chief investment officer John Stratton, the main architect behind the carrier's impressive 2.9 percent investment return, could yet be retained.

Under traditional Fairfax take-overs, the investments of the merged entity are moved into Fairfax's portfolio.

Cloutier said that he expected Brit would move towards the Fairfax model, but said he would not speculate on what that meant for the company's staff.

He added: "Having said that, John's done an outstanding job for us, and that's recognised, so I don't think people should make any assumptions one way or the other."



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Re: Fairfax acquires Brit PLC
« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2015, 06:00:48 AM »
Wouldn't it be better to look at Brit's excess capital?  FFH operating subs have a $25B portfolio but aside from the surplus, that belongs to the policyholders.   
After allowing for these dividends, our excess of capital resources over management entity capital requirements of £251.7m, (which is about $388M US$.

Prem always breaks out their holding company investments vs. their operating company portfolio investments.  I do not believe FFH is using their float/operating company $25B investment portfolio to buy Brit.  That will be financed and paid for from the holdco.

That's exactly what I think you should use.   So they pay £1120 and get to take out £252m of excess capital (in theory anyway) so really they paid £870 for the company itself.   Which is nice...
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