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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2020, 06:23:20 PM »
I am from Wuhan and I have lots of friends and relatives there. I could tell you this: If you trust the government's stats of 500 infections and 17 deaths, it is no different from buying Chinese stocks merely based on their financial reports. All fake numbers.
The actual number is likely in the 100k range.
Right now even the doctors ran out of masks and gloves and are working unprotected. I don't know how much longer they can last before they are down.
I have 3 relatives infected. One staying at home, and two who spent 6 days going to each hospital to try to get hospitalized. They were all told one thing: We don't have resources for you. Go home. They finally got hospitalized yesterday. Think about it. That's after they are diagnosed positive. They are walking on the streets for 6 days while spreading the virus everywhere, with no hospital taking them in.
There are thousands and thousands of such patients.
There are also dead bodies everywhere in all hospitals. They are dead on the floor and for hours, no one comes to pick the bodies up. When they do get picked up, they are immediately sent to the funeral to be burned, without any diagnose of whether they got infected by this virus or else. Therefore the 17 death is just a joke.

Lol what? How were they diagnosed BEFORE being hospitalized?

Why not? They come to the hospital, wait for 5 hours while infecting all other patients waiting in line (and being infected as well). Then they met the doctor, who asked the nurse to do a series of lab testing for them. Then results show positive. And doctor says sorry we don't have any beds for you today. Go home and try to come here again tomorrow to see if we have any empty beds.

I have read that many patients who went to the hospital and asked to be tested and were denied the test. It’s an expensive test and the doctor says they need get special approvals. A lot of people who got turned away from the hospital and stayed at home were not counted in the official stats.

The research scientists did a great job coming up with a PCR testing kit that can accurately identify the virus RNA sequence. It is not expensive, but the kits are not available in a lot of hospitals. My two relatively got tested by the kit so they know they are positive. Most people couldn't get one even until they die.
The government officials screwed up everything. They lied to public and tried to tell everyone that this is no big deal. Even on Jan 19th, they tried to lie to public and show everything is fine by organizing a 40k people potluck. How stupid.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2020, 06:25:10 PM »
I am from Wuhan and I have lots of friends and relatives there. I could tell you this: If you trust the government's stats of 500 infections and 17 deaths, it is no different from buying Chinese stocks merely based on their financial reports. All fake numbers.
The actual number is likely in the 100k range.
Right now even the doctors ran out of masks and gloves and are working unprotected. I don't know how much longer they can last before they are down.
I have 3 relatives infected. One staying at home, and two who spent 6 days going to each hospital to try to get hospitalized. They were all told one thing: We don't have resources for you. Go home. They finally got hospitalized yesterday. Think about it. That's after they are diagnosed positive. They are walking on the streets for 6 days while spreading the virus everywhere, with no hospital taking them in.
There are thousands and thousands of such patients.
There are also dead bodies everywhere in all hospitals. They are dead on the floor and for hours, no one comes to pick the bodies up. When they do get picked up, they are immediately sent to the funeral to be burned, without any diagnose of whether they got infected by this virus or else. Therefore the 17 death is just a joke.

It seemed very alarming that they shut down so many cities so quickly. It’s up to like 30 million people “quarantined” in their cities. China doesn’t mess around, so I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it’s much bigger than the government is saying. You don’t just shut down 30 million people for no reason.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2020, 06:25:23 PM »
I am from Wuhan and I have lots of friends and relatives there. I could tell you this: If you trust the government's stats of 500 infections and 17 deaths, it is no different from buying Chinese stocks merely based on their financial reports. All fake numbers.
The actual number is likely in the 100k range.
Right now even the doctors ran out of masks and gloves and are working unprotected. I don't know how much longer they can last before they are down.
I have 3 relatives infected. One staying at home, and two who spent 6 days going to each hospital to try to get hospitalized. They were all told one thing: We don't have resources for you. Go home. They finally got hospitalized yesterday. Think about it. That's after they are diagnosed positive. They are walking on the streets for 6 days while spreading the virus everywhere, with no hospital taking them in.
There are thousands and thousands of such patients.
There are also dead bodies everywhere in all hospitals. They are dead on the floor and for hours, no one comes to pick the bodies up. When they do get picked up, they are immediately sent to the funeral to be burned, without any diagnose of whether they got infected by this virus or else. Therefore the 17 death is just a joke.

Thanks for sharing that firsthand information. I hope everyone in your family ends up alright. What makes you think that’s the number has already hit 100k?

Each hospital's waiting time is at least 5 hours. A couple thousand angry patients waiting in line. Multiple that by the number of hospitals and multiple 3 (arbitrary number in my mind) for people who got infected but haven't shown any symptoms yet. Keep in mind that there is a 14 day quiet period after infection where no symptom is shown.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2020, 06:27:05 PM »
I am from Wuhan and I have lots of friends and relatives there. I could tell you this: If you trust the government's stats of 500 infections and 17 deaths, it is no different from buying Chinese stocks merely based on their financial reports. All fake numbers.
The actual number is likely in the 100k range.
Right now even the doctors ran out of masks and gloves and are working unprotected. I don't know how much longer they can last before they are down.
I have 3 relatives infected. One staying at home, and two who spent 6 days going to each hospital to try to get hospitalized. They were all told one thing: We don't have resources for you. Go home. They finally got hospitalized yesterday. Think about it. That's after they are diagnosed positive. They are walking on the streets for 6 days while spreading the virus everywhere, with no hospital taking them in.
There are thousands and thousands of such patients.
There are also dead bodies everywhere in all hospitals. They are dead on the floor and for hours, no one comes to pick the bodies up. When they do get picked up, they are immediately sent to the funeral to be burned, without any diagnose of whether they got infected by this virus or else. Therefore the 17 death is just a joke.

Lol what? How were they diagnosed BEFORE being hospitalized?

Why not? They come to the hospital, wait for 5 hours while infecting all other patients waiting in line (and being infected as well). Then they met the doctor, who asked the nurse to do a series of lab testing for them. Then results show positive. And doctor says sorry we don't have any beds for you today. Go home and try to come here again tomorrow to see if we have any empty beds.

Your story sounds like a whole load of BS. There is absolutely no way the hospital is letting an infected victim just go home. They’ll house them in tents if there aren’t any beds and keep them quarantined.

Your comment is like adding salt to the wound. You have no respect and no sympathy for my relatives and for people who got infected.
You don't have to believe anything I said. Just go there and look at it yourself.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2020, 06:30:08 PM »
When my two relatives were running around hoping to get hospitalized, they saw a doctor's family member infected, and was told by the doctor that he has to go home because there is no bed. So how do you expect the doctor to have mood to hospitalize strangers?
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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2020, 07:54:36 PM »
When my two relatives were running around hoping to get hospitalized, they saw a doctor's family member infected, and was told by the doctor that he has to go home because there is no bed. So how do you expect the doctor to have mood to hospitalize strangers?

Yes, what you said is true. The one big issue is the doctors do not have enough supplies, the doctors and nurses do not have enough masks and eye protectors! The government say we do not accept overseas donations, but the doctors and nurses everywhere are crying online for international help!

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2020, 08:03:16 PM »
When my two relatives were running around hoping to get hospitalized, they saw a doctor's family member infected, and was told by the doctor that he has to go home because there is no bed. So how do you expect the doctor to have mood to hospitalize strangers?

Yes, what you said is true. The one big issue is the doctors do not have enough supplies, the doctors and nurses do not have enough masks and eye protectors! The government say we do not accept overseas donations, but the doctors and nurses everywhere are crying online for international help!

This is just one:

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/r0MgCEtpYRocZECSPcpDXA

The doctors have no masks, no eye protections, no food!

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2020, 08:12:29 PM »
When my two relatives were running around hoping to get hospitalized, they saw a doctor's family member infected, and was told by the doctor that he has to go home because there is no bed. So how do you expect the doctor to have mood to hospitalize strangers?

Yes, what you said is true. The one big issue is the doctors do not have enough supplies, the doctors and nurses do not have enough masks and eye protectors! The government say we do not accept overseas donations, but the doctors and nurses everywhere are crying online for international help!

This is just one:

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/r0MgCEtpYRocZECSPcpDXA

The doctors have no masks, no eye protections, no food!


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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2020, 08:38:39 PM »
I am from Wuhan and I have lots of friends and relatives there. I could tell you this: If you trust the government's stats of 500 infections and 17 deaths, it is no different from buying Chinese stocks merely based on their financial reports. All fake numbers.
The actual number is likely in the 100k range.
Right now even the doctors ran out of masks and gloves and are working unprotected. I don't know how much longer they can last before they are down.
I have 3 relatives infected. One staying at home, and two who spent 6 days going to each hospital to try to get hospitalized. They were all told one thing: We don't have resources for you. Go home. They finally got hospitalized yesterday. Think about it. That's after they are diagnosed positive. They are walking on the streets for 6 days while spreading the virus everywhere, with no hospital taking them in.
There are thousands and thousands of such patients.
There are also dead bodies everywhere in all hospitals. They are dead on the floor and for hours, no one comes to pick the bodies up. When they do get picked up, they are immediately sent to the funeral to be burned, without any diagnose of whether they got infected by this virus or else. Therefore the 17 death is just a joke.

Lol what? How were they diagnosed BEFORE being hospitalized?

Why not? They come to the hospital, wait for 5 hours while infecting all other patients waiting in line (and being infected as well). Then they met the doctor, who asked the nurse to do a series of lab testing for them. Then results show positive. And doctor says sorry we don't have any beds for you today. Go home and try to come here again tomorrow to see if we have any empty beds.

Your story sounds like a whole load of BS. There is absolutely no way the hospital is letting an infected victim just go home. They’ll house them in tents if there aren’t any beds and keep them quarantined.

Your comment is like adding salt to the wound. You have no respect and no sympathy for my relatives and for people who got infected.
You don't have to believe anything I said. Just go there and look at it yourself.

Thanks Muscleman for telling your story; much appreciated and hope you can provide more updates in the next little while.  It's sad but not surprised to read about what is happening on the ground.  Speedy recovery for your families.


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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2020, 09:22:37 PM »
Take photos, spread the news. The world needs to know the humanitarian crisis that is developing. If this as bad as it sounds, it will need a coordinated effort to solve.
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