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Aurelius

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2890 on: March 29, 2020, 03:31:47 PM »
Better (the best in the world?) data on Iceland  --- and its results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6MZy-2fcBw&feature=youtu.be&t=736

Article on the randomized testing in Iceland:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/68ZG5SYcRQ5q8F7QR/iceland-s-covid-19-random-sampling-results-c19-similar-to

The official stats (not the randomized test):
https://www.covid.is/data


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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2891 on: March 29, 2020, 03:39:40 PM »
Potus now talks in the WH press conference to find out where all these masks go in NYC. Are they going though the back door? Someone should investigate  :o

Literally his words.
Someone should tell him what the Justice Department is actually for? I don't know...

Alternatively, he could visit The Elmhurst hospital and don the PPE, mask etc and get an first hand idea how it works and where the stuff goes.

Combine this with what I hear from my wife, it’s quite something. Did the US ever send soldiers to war telling them to count the bullets? I don’t think so.

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“President Trump is a ratings hit. Since reviving the daily White House briefing Mr. Trump and his coronavirus updates have attracted an average audience of 8.5 million on cable news, roughly the viewership of the season finale of ‘The Bachelor.’ Numbers are continuing to rise...
Maybe if you get a camera crew he will show up at Elmhurst?

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2892 on: March 29, 2020, 03:48:24 PM »
Potus now talks in the WH press conference to find out where all these masks go in NYC. Are they going though the back door? Someone should investigate  :o

Literally his words.
Someone should tell him what the Justice Department is actually for? I don't know...

Alternatively, he could visit The Elmhurst hospital and don the PPE, mask etc and get an first hand idea how it works and where the stuff goes.

Combine this with what I hear from my wife, it’s quite something. Did the US ever send soldiers to war telling them to count the bullets? I don’t think so.

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“President Trump is a ratings hit. Since reviving the daily White House briefing Mr. Trump and his coronavirus updates have attracted an average audience of 8.5 million on cable news, roughly the viewership of the season finale of ‘The Bachelor.’ Numbers are continuing to rise...
Maybe if you get a camera crew he will show up at Elmhurst?

Everyone looks forward to Coronacrisis season two this fall?
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2893 on: March 29, 2020, 04:15:58 PM »
 it looks like Washington and California states are under control ?  only state loosing it seems to be New York!

« Last Edit: March 29, 2020, 05:21:58 PM by gary17 »

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2894 on: March 29, 2020, 04:42:40 PM »
it looks like Washington and California states is under control ?  only state loosing it seems to be New York!

Yes, it seem that Washington state is under control for now. Hopefully it stays that way. Sometimes it actually is good to be hit first. I also think in Washington’s case, the governor did a good job, but I think part of it is just luck too. Social distancing is rally hard in NYC as well, it’s way easier in less densely populated areas.

The other worrying hotspots are Florida, New Orleans and I believe Washington DC as well.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2895 on: March 29, 2020, 04:47:55 PM »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wtop.com/local/2020/03/coronavirus-test-results-in-dc-maryland-and-virginia/amp/

Both from the data and anecdotes (wife works in DC hospital, neighbor works in another), i do not conclude that DC is a hot spot, yet at least.

Anecdotally, Michigan is awful (know doctors there)
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2896 on: March 29, 2020, 05:08:05 PM »
There could be day to day fluctuation on how data is released. Do West Coast states release data later? In some places is as much testing and release of lab results occurring on weekend days as on weekdays? Are fewer primary care sites (testing sites) and labs (to report tests) open on weekends?

One would think mortality data would not have the same problem however.

Also would not rely on data unless the day is complete (Midnight PDT) and it's all been reported.

The big picture for U.S. not reassuring:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

And new areas (MI, FL, MA, IL, LA, PA) are entering the fold. At this point, regional quarantine is useless because this has seeded across the U.S.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2897 on: March 29, 2020, 05:53:20 PM »

The big picture for U.S. not reassuring:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

And new areas (MI, FL, MA, IL, LA, PA) are entering the fold. At this point, regional quarantine is useless because this has seeded across the U.S.

+1
And this is not priced into the markets yet...especially that the social distancing will need to go on another month or so and it's financial impacts

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2898 on: March 29, 2020, 06:31:33 PM »

Social distancing can only really work if it's extremely strict or if everyone is forced to wear masks by law and it is enforced.  It's enough to have one super spreader to start the whole thing again.

Current half-assed measures are at best just to buy hospitals some time to load up on equipment and make sure they are not swamped.

Not only is it not going to reopen by Easter or whatever, within two weeks to three weeks we are going to see some extreme measures in place.


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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2899 on: March 29, 2020, 06:39:46 PM »
So far best response: South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore.
Is it because they all have mandatory military service for men and the people are more alert about incoming threats (from North Korea, China, Malaysia)?
Something to consider?

Simple. 1. Everyone in these countries wore masks, and I mean EVERYONE -- the best form of social distancing that actually works.  + 2. testing + 3. due to SARS they had a system in place + 4. pro-science functioning governments.

What about the USA? 1. nope. 2. only starting 3. had a system but it was ignored and the responsible team fired 4. None of that.

Goodluck.