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Spekulatius

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5860 on: May 29, 2020, 04:09:00 PM »
I just love this President:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-announces-u-s-terminating-relationship-with-world-health-organization/

Trump Announces U.S. ‘Terminating’ Relationship with World Health Organization

That’s going to show China. Soon they will be running the outfit. The US saves $550M or roughly $1.3 per head.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5861 on: May 29, 2020, 04:48:17 PM »
I just love this President:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-announces-u-s-terminating-relationship-with-world-health-organization/

Trump Announces U.S. ‘Terminating’ Relationship with World Health Organization

That’s going to show China. Soon they will be running the outfit. The US saves $550M or roughly $1.3 per head.
Nature abhors a vacuum. That's what we learned the last time we tried isolationism. It doesn't seem to be going very well this time either.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5862 on: May 29, 2020, 04:54:39 PM »
I just love this President:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-announces-u-s-terminating-relationship-with-world-health-organization/

Trump Announces U.S. ‘Terminating’ Relationship with World Health Organization

That’s going to show China. Soon they will be running the outfit. The US saves $550M or roughly $1.3 per head.
That's just a tad more than what the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation spends on the WHO.

Spekulatius

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5863 on: May 29, 2020, 05:12:31 PM »
I just love this President:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-announces-u-s-terminating-relationship-with-world-health-organization/

Trump Announces U.S. ‘Terminating’ Relationship with World Health Organization

That’s going to show China. Soon they will be running the outfit. The US saves $550M or roughly $1.3 per head.
Nature abhors a vacuum. That's what we learned the last time we tried isolationism. It doesn't seem to be going very well this time either.

Isolation doesn’t real work with pandemics. It is one thing where an ounce of prevention saves you a pound of cure quite literally. The WHO and China needs to be held accountable and China’s influence on this organization needs to be diminished, such that we can minimize the risk of a repeat.

The WHO has done great work and helped contain Ebola and SARS and perhaps other diseases. Saving $550M while we are spending 5 Trillion right now to help cope with the existing situation makes no sense if you think about risk rewards ratios.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5864 on: May 29, 2020, 05:38:00 PM »
I just love this President:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-announces-u-s-terminating-relationship-with-world-health-organization/

Trump Announces U.S. ‘Terminating’ Relationship with World Health Organization

That’s going to show China. Soon they will be running the outfit. The US saves $550M or roughly $1.3 per head.
Nature abhors a vacuum. That's what we learned the last time we tried isolationism. It doesn't seem to be going very well this time either.

Isolation doesn’t real work with pandemics. It is one thing where an ounce of prevention saves you a pound of cure quite literally. The WHO and China needs to be held accountable and China’s influence on this organization needs to be diminished, such that we can minimize the risk of a repeat.

The WHO has done great work and helped contain Ebola and SARS and perhaps other diseases. Saving $550M while we are spending 5 Trillion right now to help cope with the existing situation makes no sense if you think about risk rewards ratios.
I meant isolationism as a failed political theory that Trump has pursued more broadly throughout his presidency. Withdrawing from international politics does not make international politics go away, it just means that you no longer have a seat at the table.

Each time Trump has gotten his feelings hurt and taken his toys and gone home, China or Russia has filled the void created by the USA's absence. This situation with the WHO will likely lead to a strengthening of Chinese leadership and a lessening of US leadership.

Goodwill for the USA's CDC (and other medical branches) that was built up over decades has been destroyed very rapidly and would be very expensive to try to replicate from scratch.

The withdrawal from the Trans Pacific Partnership is an interesting analogue since many believe the TPP would have increased US influence and decreased the influence of China. For some reason, Trump wanted to walk away from that too. He sure does seem to enjoy Chinese visitors at Mara Lago. Maybe we will find out the truth about that situation some day.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5865 on: May 29, 2020, 09:35:21 PM »
1. This is not a natural system, it is man-made, but if you wish, the lack of leadership can be replaced with chaos or conflict.  It is not necessarily going to be filled by anyone else, for the simple fact:

2. This leadership (military, reserve currency, funding entities etc.) comes with a great cost which so far has been borne mostly by the USA.  Trump is right in asking others to pay for their share.  The American household contribution to the world and its support of various economies has been taken for granted for far too long.


A reminder: the country with the highest current account surplus in the world is Germany. By far.  Germa elite/businesses have greatly benefited and are the ones responsible for a lot of negative economic impact on USA and European households. Time to pay.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2020, 09:47:13 PM by meiroy »

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5866 on: May 30, 2020, 10:34:03 AM »
How can WHO be useful in containing the pandemic while they still showing this guideline:

If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5867 on: May 30, 2020, 03:13:11 PM »
The power of deregulation:

Years before the nation's nursing homes experienced a heavy COVID-19 death toll, the Trump administration rolled back the federal rules and regulations put in place by the Obama administration aimed at improving infection control in these kinds of facilities.

https://www.salon.com/2020/05/30/by-undoing-obamas-nursing-home-regulations-trump-opened-the-door-for-the-deaths-were-seeing/
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5868 on: May 31, 2020, 04:00:53 PM »
Pretty good summary of COVID-19 from a medical POV.
https://www.bbc.com/news/52760992
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #5869 on: May 31, 2020, 06:52:15 PM »
Who knew a violent protest would come after a Coronavirus lockdown... and not because of the lockdown.

With protestors wearing masks, of course.

2020 has been truly absurd.