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Spekulatius

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8210 on: November 21, 2020, 03:08:01 PM »
The story of how BioNtech developed the COVId-19 vaccine:
https://www.ft.com/content/c4ca8496-a215-44b1-a7eb-f88568fc9de9

I didnít know this, but Pfizer was not involved in the early stages, but assisted with manufacturing and running the trials. The research was funded by the German government (375M Euro) and of course a large order (if the vaccine would be approved ) by the US government played a role too.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8211 on: November 22, 2020, 07:09:16 AM »
For those who think wearing a mask is ineffective, next time you go in for a surgery tell the doctors & nurses not to bother wearing masks as they slice you open.

Covid is like any other serious risk. You take common sense steps to avoid becoming a victim. But if your number comes up, your number comes up.

For those that think that cloths masks may be or may not be effective think about whether or not you can smell your own fart or someone else fart when they pass gas.

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« Reply #8212 on: November 22, 2020, 07:16:42 AM »
For those who think wearing a mask is ineffective, next time you go in for a surgery tell the doctors & nurses not to bother wearing masks as they slice you open.

Covid is like any other serious risk. You take common sense steps to avoid becoming a victim. But if your number comes up, your number comes up.

For those that think that cloths masks may be or may not be effective think about whether or not you can smell your own fart or someone else fart when they pass gas.

I know it stinks but here you go.

https://medium.com/geek-physics/if-masks-work-why-can-i-smell-farts-c0b8e10323c6
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« Reply #8213 on: November 22, 2020, 08:59:59 AM »
We will have potentially 20m vaccine doses available by the end of December.  Assuming there is a means of distributing and administering the doses...

We have 28m Americans over the age of 70.

Most of the dying are age 70+.

If we first vaccinating the age 70+ the death tool should drop by over 90%.  Right?

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8214 on: November 22, 2020, 09:20:34 AM »
For those that think that cloths masks may be or may not be effective think about whether or not you can smell your own fart or someone else fart when they pass gas.

And then think about whether fecal diseases (typhoid, cholera, etc) are spread by farts.

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« Reply #8215 on: November 22, 2020, 09:22:20 AM »
We will have potentially 20m vaccine doses available by the end of December.  Assuming there is a means of distributing and administering the doses...

We have 28m Americans over the age of 70.

Most of the dying are age 70+.

If we first vaccinating the age 70+ the death tool should drop by over 90%.  Right?

Vaccines will go to med staff first, but regardless remember two doses per person.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8216 on: November 22, 2020, 09:27:41 AM »
For those that think that cloths masks may be or may not be effective think about whether or not you can smell your own fart or someone else fart when they pass gas.

And then think about whether fecal diseases (typhoid, cholera, etc) are spread by farts.

Farts work well to enforce social distancing though.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8217 on: November 22, 2020, 10:12:05 AM »
We will have potentially 20m vaccine doses available by the end of December.  Assuming there is a means of distributing and administering the doses...

We have 28m Americans over the age of 70.

Most of the dying are age 70+.

If we first vaccinating the age 70+ the death tool should drop by over 90%.  Right?

Vaccines will go to med staff first, but regardless remember two doses per person.

I know that's the plan to prioritize the med staff, but I'm not in agreement that it's the right approach.  If one were to take the 70+ age group out of the equation, what would be the load on the hospitals today?  That's how the pressure comes off the hospitals, and the rational for the curfews and shutdowns is that the spread of the virus is risking our hospitals being overrun. 

Anyways...

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8218 on: November 22, 2020, 10:31:40 AM »
We will have potentially 20m vaccine doses available by the end of December.  Assuming there is a means of distributing and administering the doses...

We have 28m Americans over the age of 70.

Most of the dying are age 70+.

If we first vaccinating the age 70+ the death tool should drop by over 90%.  Right?

Vaccines will go to med staff first, but regardless remember two doses per person.

I know that's the plan to prioritize the med staff, but I'm not in agreement that it's the right approach.  If one were to take the 70+ age group out of the equation, what would be the load on the hospitals today?  That's how the pressure comes off the hospitals, and the rational for the curfews and shutdowns is that the spread of the virus is risking our hospitals being overrun. 

Anyways...

The thinking I think is that front-line workers are vectors of spread to the elderly. Though I agree with you that the elderly should be vaccinated first.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8219 on: November 22, 2020, 12:27:37 PM »
Well it's a safety thing. Med staff is at risk cause they are exposed to it every day.

What Eric says has some logic from an efficiency perspective. But to use an imperfect analogy it would be like sending soldiers into battle without body armour because you'll bomb the enemy's bullet factories.