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Viking

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2340 on: March 24, 2020, 02:25:19 PM »

I am pretty sure if itís the choice is between his re-election and 500k dead, I know what he is going to pick. Telltale sign will be Fauci resigning.

Of course Trump will make that choice!  - he is the evil Donald Trump and is a mass murderer.
He should have been impeached long ago.

While the economy gets destroyed - you guys with good jobs could give 2 shits about Joe/Mary Sixpack that lost jobs and
live paycheck to paycheck. Like Trump, they are just greedy money grubbers! Screw 'em.

So, yeah - NO debate needed on Trump attempting to save the economy - you guys got it all figured out!

You guys are a joke!

Everyone sees what happened in Wuhan, Iran and Northern Italy. In these regions it has been a humanitarian disaster for 'Joe/Mary Sixpack' and everyone else involved. It is because people on this board care about 'Joe and Mary' that they expect a lot from their elected leaders. In times like these it is normal to scrutinize what they say and do. 


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« Reply #2341 on: March 24, 2020, 02:29:45 PM »
Shouldn't we focus on the curve by region? NY seems to be hit hardest.
Washington/California has high caseloads but growth has not increased as dramatically. So it doesn't seem like the entire country is following the same curve.
I think Cuomo has a good point, the Federal government should direct resources toward different parts of the country based on their curve & progress.

Yeah, this is what Peter Attia has been saying lately. This shouldn't be looked at by country, but by city/area. Parts of Italy have very low mortality, but Milan is like 40x Sicily per capita or something like that.

Just for reference :

Danish Health Authority. Please click on "Status over coronavirus/COVID-19", to the right "Se de nyeste tal" [translated to English : "See the newest figures"].

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All numbers gathered, consolidated & drilled down, centrally, to get an overview of the whole situation as it evolves, in transparency for the whole population [if it's interested].

Denmark is tiny [about 5.8 M citizens, I think], - easy task to do on a running basis, if proper & systematic reporting procedures are set up & running properly, much more complicated task for the US, but the US will eventually get there, too, and likely very fast [, simply because it's needed].

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It's like an ERP system & management tool for a real business : It provides input for "guidances" about how "this thingy" evolves over time, capacity planning for the near future [operative planning related to scarce resources etc., and serves as overall input on measurement of efficiency of countermeasures already taken & in place [for evaluation purposes]. It's also serves as input to epidemic statistical models, creating a feedback loop in decision making.

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No matter how much more complicated the [decentralized] "model" for the US will be, the US will get there, too. The "brain" and the will to do it is present.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2342 on: March 24, 2020, 02:31:49 PM »
Post on viral load, and why getting infected with a higher viral load is a problem:

https://twitter.com/OliviaCrellin/status/1241848996546646023?s=20

If so, isn't this great news?

Infect individuals with minimal dose, treat mild symptoms with medication cocktail (https://www.wsj.com/articles/these-drugs-are-helping-our-coronavirus-patients-11584899438), clear the virus, return to work after a week?
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2343 on: March 24, 2020, 02:32:56 PM »
No , you all just LOVE to present false dichotomies in hopes of destroying the President - and you know it.

I mean, it's not like the real choice might be between another Great Depression and millions of financially ruined lives.

You guys give 2 shits about that - you want the President destroyed and you know it.

Easy choice coming from a bunch of people with great jobs - while others in real pain side with the President
on finding workable alternatives.

It's just great to see the great minds here on COBF have it all figured out what the Presidents real motivations are.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2344 on: March 24, 2020, 02:37:59 PM »

I am pretty sure if itís the choice is between his re-election and 500k dead, I know what he is going to pick. Telltale sign will be Fauci resigning.

Of course Trump will make that choice!  - he is the evil Donald Trump and is a mass murderer.
He should have been impeached long ago.

While the economy gets destroyed - you guys with good jobs could give 2 shits about Joe/Mary Sixpack that lost jobs and
live paycheck to paycheck. Like Trump, they are just greedy money grubbers! Screw 'em.

So, yeah - NO debate needed on Trump attempting to save the economy - you guys got it all figured out!

You guys are a joke!

I didnít state what choice he is going to pick, but you did.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2345 on: March 24, 2020, 02:40:45 PM »
No worries Spek, we knew exactly what you meant.

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« Reply #2346 on: March 24, 2020, 02:41:51 PM »
I vacillate back and forth a lot on how long this will truly be a problem.  But, I just read this the other day:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nobel-prize-winner-shares-some-good-news-about-the-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-03-23

I sometimes wonder if this will all be over by the summer.
Spring/Summer 2021 would be my guess.

When you say this won't be over until Spring/Summer 2021, what do you define as over?

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2347 on: March 24, 2020, 02:46:36 PM »
I vacillate back and forth a lot on how long this will truly be a problem.  But, I just read this the other day:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nobel-prize-winner-shares-some-good-news-about-the-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-03-23

I sometimes wonder if this will all be over by the summer.
Spring/Summer 2021 would be my guess.

When you say this won't be over until Spring/Summer 2021, what do you define as over?

Most of the population is vaccinated and there are no more significant flare ups of COVID-19.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2348 on: March 24, 2020, 02:58:04 PM »
It is because people on this board care about 'Joe and Mary' that they expect a lot from their elected leaders. In times like these it is normal to scrutinize what they say and do.

Fair enough.

What's your take on the Democrat's reluctance to support the stimulus bill? What do you expect of them?

 
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #2349 on: March 24, 2020, 03:00:46 PM »
It's just great to see the great minds here on COBF have it all figured out what the Presidents real motivations are.

Are you incurious as to why Trump kept saying this is a hoax and a conspiracy against his presidency long after he was briefed about the threat and it continued to spread?

Surely you understand there is some mental illness there.

The man literally believed this was a global conspiracy against his presidency.
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