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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #7871 on: October 14, 2020, 09:11:31 PM »
Finally randomised clinical trial of Ivermectin+ vs placebo
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/results/NCT04523831

Of 556 patients who screened and were assessed for eligibility, 400 underwent randomization. Total 200 patients received active drug and 200 patient received placebo.
Masking: Double (Participant, Investigator);

Details of results including time to recover, severity of symptoms, side effects & all cause mortality are given in the link.

This website is lot more readable on PC than on mobile phone.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #7872 on: October 15, 2020, 04:53:41 AM »
Something does not add up here.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53934952

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-30/france-tightens-mask-protocols-after-surge-in-virus-infections

Mask mandates go into effect end of august and 6 weeks later France has a state of health emergency. Is 6 weeks not long enough and now we have to wait 2 more weeks for the masks to start working?

https://www.euronews.com/2020/10/14/france-will-reimpose-a-coronavirus-related-state-of-health-emergency-from-october-17


...and so much for that testing and tracing stuff.

 https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/200920/how-frances-covid-test-and-trace-strategy-became-overwhelmed

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/13/uks-test-and-trace-having-marginal-impact-which-countries-got-it-right

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/glitches-dent-german-enthusiasm-for-covid-contact-tracing-app



We thought only the US couldn't get its act together with testing!! Who on the board wanted all this testing again? Clearly its working well in Europe.


Uh oh. Canada is no bueno.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/14/who-warns-canada-is-facing-a-second-wave-of-coronavirus-cases-.html

"The government warned Ontario could experience “worst-case scenarios seen in northern Italy and New York City” if trends continue, Reuters reported Friday."

So seeing that France instituted some mask mandates and had a test and trace program in place (that is failing) what exactly is it again that the US should be doing different? Trump took it on chin on good old cornerofberkshire&fairfax.  All we heard all summer was how the US was a covid shithole from our European and Canadian brethren .

....and now the thread is quiet.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #7873 on: October 15, 2020, 05:50:33 AM »
Then look at Sweden Orthopa.

All you have heard on this board on U.S. and Covid are loud mouth Trump haters.

Also the same ones who say to listen to scientists like WHO who are doing fuck all to prevent and act more like news anchors.

Then same scientists who said masks were no good then now great.

Common sense is absent out here.


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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #7874 on: October 15, 2020, 06:46:54 AM »
We need more twitter links on the contact radius and size in um of corona fart particles and whether not our 880 thread count bed sheets can act as an effective mask. That will get us back on track real quick.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #7875 on: October 15, 2020, 06:57:41 AM »
Are we not simply seeing the expected Second Wave repeating the path of the first wave as it progresses from east to west, through Europe towards North America as we move from summer into winter?

The only good news I see here is that it seems we have been able to treat the victims more effectively thus reducing the death rate.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #7876 on: October 15, 2020, 07:10:25 AM »
Are we not simply seeing the expected Second Wave repeating the path of the first wave as it progresses from east to west, through Europe towards North America as we move from summer into winter?

The only good news I see here is that it seems we have been able to treat the victims more effectively thus reducing the death rate.

Who cares? At this point the virus isn't at all what everyone made it out to be and that is clear. If I read another story about "event cancelled because of covid" or "2nd wave, lets shut down" I think Ill just go "all cash" like many of "the experts" here did in March.

Its preposterous what MSM and hysterics can do. This entire thing is summed up nicely by the ESPN article on FL and AL situations. Florida game delayed because of covid! is the headline. Bottom of the paragraph...all 15 who tested positive are either asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms. Then "Nick Saban positive for COVID"...bottom of the article, Saban is asymptomatic and while quarantining, basically running practice from Zoom! Yea, another 68 year old who's gonna die.

Everything about this, at this point, is "the flu". Perhaps MSM can start a "flu tracker" this year to give people something to do when they arent obsessing over covid. Everyone says" oh but 200k deaths!"...well, we shouldn't have been seeing 8% death rates, but you know.... Just the other day Cuomo was at his podium now claiming hospitals "were nowhere near capacity and had plenty of room back in April"...you cant make this stuff up.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #7877 on: October 15, 2020, 07:25:58 AM »
We thought only the US couldn't get its act together with testing!! Who on the board wanted all this testing again? Clearly its working well in Europe.

With a couple minor exceptions, the places hit badly in the first wave are getting hit badly in the second wave. Comparing the U.S. only to the D/F students might be good PR, but it is a horrible way to manage a pandemic.

And to the MAGA-trolls, this has nothing to do with Him. We do it in Canada too. Quebec has done a horrible job throughout the pandemic (F grade). But the Ontario premier is getting his advice from Quebec rather than any of several provinces that are getting A or B grades.

If you actually cared about managing this epidemic, you'd be looking at Vietnam, South Korea, Japan, NZ, Australia, Taiwan, China, eastern Canada, Singapore, Thailand. Oddly, this is the same list from the start


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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #7878 on: October 15, 2020, 07:30:20 AM »
....and now the thread is quiet.

The thread is quiet because whenever someone tries to have an intelligent conversation, the MAGA-trolls post gibberish and nonsense to try to drown out any rational thought.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #7879 on: October 15, 2020, 07:36:42 AM »
Interesting. Lets go back and read Feb/March/April again...when people where trying to have investment related discussions and the covid experts drowned everything out crying about Trump....