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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8210 on: November 19, 2020, 06:36:06 PM »
Height of stupidity:

WHO tells doctors not to use Gilead's remdesivir as a coronavirus treatment, splitting with FDA
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/19/coronavirus-who-tells-doctors-dont-use-gileads-remdesivir-splitting-with-fda.html

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8211 on: November 19, 2020, 06:48:56 PM »
Height of stupidity:

WHO tells doctors not to use Gilead's remdesivir as a coronavirus treatment, splitting with FDA
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/19/coronavirus-who-tells-doctors-dont-use-gileads-remdesivir-splitting-with-fda.html

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Why is this stupid? The drug apparently has not produced any tangible benefit in their large study and it is expensive and complex to administer. They are not the first ones to bring this up either. The WHO supports more trials but so far, it does not seem very effective, if at all.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8212 on: November 21, 2020, 02:09:18 PM »
https://www.c-span.org/video/?478159-1/senate-hearing-covid-19-outpatient-treatment&live
Senate Hearing on COVID-19 Outpatient Treatment
The problem described Dr. Peter Mcculough I think is real.  There is no early treatment protocol in US.
Unfortunately virus is not waiting and unless the person has good immune response, the virus is replicating.  To try to treat after the virus has replicated is not done for any infection says Dr. Peter Mcculough. And even if the doctors are succesfful in treating them in hospital, there is damage done by virus and we end up with long term symptoms.
Medicines like Remdesivir even if they work, they can be given only in hospital and there are only so many hospital beds.
And so much is about masks, with no clear study showing they work, while completely disregarding medicines for early treatment.
I think this is something to listen to.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8213 on: November 21, 2020, 03:08:01 PM »
The story of how BioNtech developed the COVId-19 vaccine:
https://www.ft.com/content/c4ca8496-a215-44b1-a7eb-f88568fc9de9

I didnít know this, but Pfizer was not involved in the early stages, but assisted with manufacturing and running the trials. The research was funded by the German government (375M Euro) and of course a large order (if the vaccine would be approved ) by the US government played a role too.
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8214 on: November 22, 2020, 07:09:16 AM »
For those who think wearing a mask is ineffective, next time you go in for a surgery tell the doctors & nurses not to bother wearing masks as they slice you open.

Covid is like any other serious risk. You take common sense steps to avoid becoming a victim. But if your number comes up, your number comes up.

For those that think that cloths masks may be or may not be effective think about whether or not you can smell your own fart or someone else fart when they pass gas.

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« Reply #8215 on: November 22, 2020, 07:16:42 AM »
For those who think wearing a mask is ineffective, next time you go in for a surgery tell the doctors & nurses not to bother wearing masks as they slice you open.

Covid is like any other serious risk. You take common sense steps to avoid becoming a victim. But if your number comes up, your number comes up.

For those that think that cloths masks may be or may not be effective think about whether or not you can smell your own fart or someone else fart when they pass gas.

I know it stinks but here you go.

https://medium.com/geek-physics/if-masks-work-why-can-i-smell-farts-c0b8e10323c6
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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8216 on: November 22, 2020, 08:59:59 AM »
We will have potentially 20m vaccine doses available by the end of December.  Assuming there is a means of distributing and administering the doses...

We have 28m Americans over the age of 70.

Most of the dying are age 70+.

If we first vaccinating the age 70+ the death tool should drop by over 90%.  Right?

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8217 on: November 22, 2020, 09:20:34 AM »
For those that think that cloths masks may be or may not be effective think about whether or not you can smell your own fart or someone else fart when they pass gas.

And then think about whether fecal diseases (typhoid, cholera, etc) are spread by farts.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8218 on: November 22, 2020, 09:22:20 AM »
We will have potentially 20m vaccine doses available by the end of December.  Assuming there is a means of distributing and administering the doses...

We have 28m Americans over the age of 70.

Most of the dying are age 70+.

If we first vaccinating the age 70+ the death tool should drop by over 90%.  Right?

Vaccines will go to med staff first, but regardless remember two doses per person.

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Re: Coronavirus
« Reply #8219 on: November 22, 2020, 09:27:41 AM »
For those that think that cloths masks may be or may not be effective think about whether or not you can smell your own fart or someone else fart when they pass gas.

And then think about whether fecal diseases (typhoid, cholera, etc) are spread by farts.

Farts work well to enforce social distancing though.
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