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« Reply #8450 on: January 10, 2021, 09:47:29 AM »
Interesting is that we have no problem accepting rolling out mail in voting ballots. You get a slip in the mail, bring it to your local polling station, cast your vote, and get your sticker. Meanwhile, for a vaccine, which should be the same exact process; IE here's your vaccine slip, bring it to the said location, exchange it for a shot and a stimulus check voucher....Nah, direct everyone to the outdated government websites that crash and lock people out when volume spikes 30% or more...then wonder why no one is getting vaccinated and places are throwing out vials because of the mishandling and lack of timely administration...total fucking idiots.


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« Reply #8451 on: January 10, 2021, 10:58:52 AM »
https://trialsitenews.com/an-unlikely-nation-is-kicking-this-pandemic-guess-which-then-why/
An Unlikely Nation Is Kicking This Pandemic. Guess Which. Then Why.

I saw the stats for India and wondered why they were such an outlier (in a good way). The article suggests there could be very good news coming on the treatment front (separate from the vaccine front). Encouraging as it allows us to tackle the virus on multiple fronts. Still so much we do not understand...

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« Reply #8452 on: January 10, 2021, 12:21:43 PM »

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« Reply #8453 on: January 10, 2021, 02:47:08 PM »

 Great read Liberty. Informative and also quite entertaining.

 

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« Reply #8454 on: January 11, 2021, 07:21:34 AM »

 Great read Liberty. Informative and also quite entertaining.

Glad you found it useful!

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« Reply #8455 on: January 11, 2021, 01:57:07 PM »
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/andrew-cuomo-economy-reopen-coronavirus

Who would have thought? Perhaps conspiracy theorists? Despite repeated cries from Fuuci about the worst being ahead of us....Cuomo is now looking to open NYC...does anyone know what changed in the past couple months?

In related news, Chicago has also decided to suddenly re-open schools. Bizarre.

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« Reply #8456 on: January 11, 2021, 02:02:03 PM »
That is surprising considering excess deaths seem to be rising in NYC.
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« Reply #8457 on: January 11, 2021, 02:28:21 PM »

 Maybe he needs material for his next book?

 

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« Reply #8458 on: January 11, 2021, 03:22:35 PM »
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/andrew-cuomo-economy-reopen-coronavirus

Who would have thought? Perhaps conspiracy theorists? Despite repeated cries from Fuuci about the worst being ahead of us....Cuomo is now looking to open NYC...does anyone know what changed in the past couple months?

In related news, Chicago has also decided to suddenly re-open schools. Bizarre.

There is a lot of evidence that opening the schools with precautions and social distancing protocols donít cause much virus transmission.
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« Reply #8459 on: January 11, 2021, 03:56:17 PM »
^NY and IL have entered the vicinity of functional herd immunity with vaccines coming. In NYC, positivity rates have levelled and are recently trending down (but still high). IL and the Chicago area had a huge second wave that peaked in late November and early December and all numbers (cases, positivity, hospitalizations and deaths) are significantly trending down.

In my jurisdiction (CDN province), it appears that only a small minority (less than 1-3%?) of vaccines are given to people not belonging to pre-defined priority groups.

In my jurisdiction (like elsewhere including the US), there is a clear movement to move away from the pre-defined two-doses regimen in order to postpone the second dose with the goal to reach an optimal number of people with the first dose. This outcome has been the result of constructive discussions between people sitting in offices and people on the ground with some kind of expertise. There is some uneasiness with this adapted strategy because the vaccine studies were devised with a fixed schedule. However, at the group level, this is likely to help reach herd immunity faster. Looking at the groups at risk in the next few weeks (similar to a threshold analysis in a bankruptcy according to priority rules), the sub-groups most likely to benefit will be the 60-69 and 70-79 living in the community. These two groups compose lower proportions of people reaching hospitals, ICUs and the morgue but numbers are still significant and this group is clearly at risk for quality-life years lost. At the individual level, postponing the second dose has positive and negative aspects. The negative aspects include that this adapted protocol was not studied and means that there will be less protection in between doses. The positive aspects include that efficacy reaches about 90% with the first dose at day 14 to 15 with the mRNA vaccines, immunity has been shown not to decline significantly for a few months and, from previous vaccine knowledge, a delayed second dose may very well result in a stronger 'boost' (longer lasting immunity).