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Re: The Big Vitamin D Mistake (not enough)
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2017, 12:59:18 PM »
Examine.com is a good resource. You can search a compound and it provides a table which summarizes various studies and their conclusions.
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Re: The Big Vitamin D Mistake (not enough)
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2018, 11:42:10 AM »
Worth watching, for a good rebuttal of the recurring meme in media about supplementation being all bad/BS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u8UdZeOhc&feature=youtu.be
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Re: The Big Vitamin D Mistake (not enough)
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2018, 01:51:55 PM »
Worth watching, for a good rebuttal of the recurring meme in media about supplementation being all bad/BS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u8UdZeOhc&feature=youtu.be

This is a rebuttal to a 2013 publication. To better understand, I would have liked to hear more about the "biases and agenda" of the authors.

Submitted as complementary information:
http://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/1789253/enough-enough-stop-wasting-money-vitamin-mineral-supplements
https://www.aafp.org/afp/2018/0215/p226.html
https://cmajnews.com/2018/06/19/trump-administration-shutters-clinical-guidelines-database-cmaj-109-5624/


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Re: The Big Vitamin D Mistake (not enough)
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2018, 02:02:58 PM »
Worth watching, for a good rebuttal of the recurring meme in media about supplementation being all bad/BS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u8UdZeOhc&feature=youtu.be

This is a rebuttal to a 2013 publication. To better understand, I would have liked to hear more about the "biases and agenda" of the authors.

Submitted as complementary information:
http://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/1789253/enough-enough-stop-wasting-money-vitamin-mineral-supplements
https://www.aafp.org/afp/2018/0215/p226.html
https://cmajnews.com/2018/06/19/trump-administration-shutters-clinical-guidelines-database-cmaj-109-5624/

The video is not a full rebuttal really. She raises a number of issues with studies that are possibly reasonable, but mostly pushes towards "we don't know", rather than "we know they are good" (which would be a real rebuttal to "we know they are not good/useful").
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Re: The Big Vitamin D Mistake (not enough)
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2018, 04:37:12 PM »
Maybe rebuttal is the wrong word, but it's certainly an elaboration on what the actual science in the studies and meta-studies say (and don't say) rather than the headlines that everybody has seen and repeat.
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Re: The Big Vitamin D Mistake (not enough)
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2018, 05:11:35 PM »
Worth watching, for a good rebuttal of the recurring meme in media about supplementation being all bad/BS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u8UdZeOhc&feature=youtu.be

This is a rebuttal to a 2013 publication. To better understand, I would have liked to hear more about the "biases and agenda" of the authors.

Submitted as complementary information:
http://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/1789253/enough-enough-stop-wasting-money-vitamin-mineral-supplements
https://www.aafp.org/afp/2018/0215/p226.html
https://cmajnews.com/2018/06/19/trump-administration-shutters-clinical-guidelines-database-cmaj-109-5624/

The video is not a full rebuttal really. She raises a number of issues with studies that are possibly reasonable, but mostly pushes towards "we don't know", rather than "we know they are good" (which would be a real rebuttal to "we know they are not good/useful").

If you claim that something is the case and someone else points out the flaws in your reasoning that is a rebuttal, even if it just takes us back to “we don’t know”.

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Re: The Big Vitamin D Mistake (not enough)
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2018, 06:02:33 PM »
I've probably listened to 15 hours of Rhonda Patrick interview recently, she's incredibly smart and well informed. Good starting points:

https://peterattiamd.com/rhondapatrick/

https://overcast.fm/+KebtYdBkI
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