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Re: War risk between China and India is increasing dramatically
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2020, 08:35:37 AM »
I don't mean to derail, those interested in the "muddiness" of the central Asian countries borders would be interested in this book.
It is a favorite of mine.

https://www.amazon.com/Great-Game-Struggle-Central-Kodansha/dp/1568360223/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=great+game&qid=1593185601&sr=8-1


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Re: War risk between China and India is increasing dramatically
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2020, 07:27:11 PM »
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For instance, Chinese investments in the ports of Djibouti, Sri Lanka and Pakistan have been followed by Chinese naval deployments.

I did not search further what exactly "naval deployments" mean.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_People's_Liberation_Army_Support_Base_in_Djibouti

Yes, but this port in question is a dedicated chinese naval base and it is next to an US naval base. it is not a port with unauthorized second use as naval base.

But I agree that thing could be quite muddy in some neighborhoods around the globe.
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Re: War risk between China and India is increasing dramatically
« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2020, 01:10:41 PM »
FWIW, it looks like there is some footage of the incident and the aftermath that has surfaced on various websites. However I won't share them here, but if you dig hard enough I'm sure you can find them if you really want to see them. All I will say it, there were plenty of bullets exchanged.
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Re: War risk between China and India is increasing dramatically
« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2020, 09:49:45 PM »
Both sides have been adding lots of militants along the entire China-India border but only Indian media have been reporting this.

People in the western world would think it is irrational for the war to break out because there is nothing to gain from it. But they probably don't understand the Chinese government. In the past, leaders used wars to grab power and gain full control of the army. The 1979 China-Vietnam war was the typical example for Xiaoping Deng to grab power.

The past presidents have been forcing army generals to state their loyalty to the president, and that created a big problem. When the next president came in power, he tries everything he could to remove these generals, and force the new generals to state their loyalty. Now with the current president, no generals want to state their loyalty anymore because they don't want to go to jail when the next president comes. So the current president is very upset with that. I think he may plan the China-India war on purpose for his personal gains.


I don't think this is a credible risk. There have always been skirmishes along the Indian border and China's focus is on the South China sea right now. The CCP won't allow a skirmish with India to escalate and risk bringing further international attention to their operations in the South China Sea which is their strategic priority.

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Re: War risk between China and India is increasing dramatically
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2020, 07:34:20 AM »
I know this is about India and China but I figured it was better than starting a new thread.

How long will the world stand by and watch this happen?

- People blindfolded and loaded on buses (verified by western intelligence)
- Forced sterilization of women including forced abortions
- Suspected organ harvesting
- 12 tons of human hair confiscated (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/01/china-muslim-labor-camps-uighur-hair-products)

How would you go to war with a country that provides so much of your resources and products?
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Re: War risk between China and India is increasing dramatically
« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2020, 08:19:59 AM »
I think the war risk is close to zero now.
I heard a shocking news today that in June, some Chinese soldiers died inside armored vehicles after the Indian soldiers poked through the armor by spear and knife.
It smells like big corruption in the Chinese army and their suppliers.
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Re: War risk between China and India is increasing dramatically
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2020, 05:34:13 PM »
I am bumping the probability of the war risk up again to 50%.
China has finally acknowledged a lot of death during the June border conflict. This could be a prelude before the war.
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Re: War risk between China and India is increasing dramatically
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2020, 07:05:49 PM »
I am bumping the probability of the war risk up again to 50%.
China has finally acknowledged a lot of death during the June border conflict. This could be a prelude before the war.

Any confrontation would surely bog down both armies in the Himalayas and end up with some sort of peace agreement. This pushes India closer to Japan the USA and Australia. Not in China's interest and a big mistake for China in my opinion. China keeps picking fights with everyone the US is trying to court.

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Re: War risk between China and India is increasing dramatically
« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2020, 07:34:35 PM »
I am bumping the probability of the war risk up again to 50%.
China has finally acknowledged a lot of death during the June border conflict. This could be a prelude before the war.
From zero to 50% War risk  based on a fact that everyone new already. This makes no sense to me whatsoever. This was a stupid but in the end inconsequential incident. I think chances of war are very remote.
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Re: War risk between China and India is increasing dramatically
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2020, 08:40:10 PM »
I am bumping the probability of the war risk up again to 50%.
China has finally acknowledged a lot of death during the June border conflict. This could be a prelude before the war.
From zero to 50% War risk  based on a fact that everyone new already. This makes no sense to me whatsoever. This was a stupid but in the end inconsequential incident. I think chances of war are very remote.

Based on a fact that everyone knows? What fact?
The fact that China suddenly started to acknowledge its heavy loss in the June conflict is quite new and only in Chinese media. Do you read those?
Yes we all knew China lost soldiers in June but the fact that it refused to acknowledge that back then implies that it had no intention to escalate. Now is the exact opposite. It wants to escalate.
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