Interesting gary.. it doesn't exactly scale though, does it?
Quote from: no_free_lunch on June 12, 2014, 03:23:47 PMInteresting gary.. it doesn't exactly scale though, does it? Also it is not liquid, I don't think there is a secondary market for it
Quote from: randomep on June 12, 2014, 03:50:26 PMQuote from: no_free_lunch on June 12, 2014, 03:23:47 PMInteresting gary.. it doesn't exactly scale though, does it? Also it is not liquid, I don't think there is a secondary market for it Actually....there is. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=starbucks+gif&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1311.R1.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0&_nkw=starbucks+gift+card&_sacat=0
Gift cards going for curious prices:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=231251221870And seller is charging $2.32 for email delivery...
Quote from: JBird on June 12, 2014, 05:07:19 PMGift cards going for curious prices:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=231251221870And seller is charging $2.32 for email delivery...buying using stolen credit cards? I was curious why there were so many gift cards on sale at 80-90 face value. Then I learned hackers were laundering stolen gift cards using these gift cards reselling sites. The discount is warranted because any stolen cards have some possibility of being cancelled.
Quote from: rainman on June 11, 2014, 01:49:42 PMMost likely MONT is a fraud. But with PDSTI acquisition, shorting it may be too dangerous ? PDSTI could acquire it and IPO in Chinese stock market.Quote from: thepupil on June 11, 2014, 10:01:55 AMMONT Jan 2015 20 - 15 put spreads at 55 centsTilson Right, Chinese company is a fraud buyout not real: 8 ProfitTilson Wrong, Chinese company is a fraud but buyout real: -1 Losshttp://seekingalpha.com/symbol/MONT?s=montWhy I Just Made Montage Technology Group My Largest Short PositionWhitney Tilson • Today, 12:30 PM • 2 CommentsChina Orders Montage Technology To Cease Production And SaleAristides Capital • Today, 8:13 AM • 25 Comments Montage's stated set top box revenue is not consistent with its reputation as a very minor player; other brands dominate Montage by 10:1 to 35:1 among suppliers and finished goods. Montage produces the majority of chips in a 5 million chip per month black market; China's government recently ordered them to "stop illegal production and sales activities immediately". Excluding illegal chips, Montage trades at roughly 10x revenue. Neither PDSTI nor anyone else is likely to buy MONT at this price. Any of numerous catalysts could drop MONT precipitously.Yep that's why I bought put spreads that pay you $5 if it's fraud for the premium of 55 cents. I also would t short this for fear of halt risk and borrow risk. Some guys who successfully identified frauds got destroyed by borrow when share were halted for months. Anyways, the base case is obviously thT the deal goes through and I lose my money, but when you see a company that has delayed SEC filings announce a buyout 20 minutes after a seeking alpha article cries fraud and the acquirer is some state owned thing, I think it's a decent bet to taken given the odds the options market is giving you. Obviously to be done in small size. I know people have mixed feelings about tilson, but I think I agree with him that betting against this thing is a good risk reward , and the put spreads make it more appealing.
Most likely MONT is a fraud. But with PDSTI acquisition, shorting it may be too dangerous ? PDSTI could acquire it and IPO in Chinese stock market.Quote from: thepupil on June 11, 2014, 10:01:55 AMMONT Jan 2015 20 - 15 put spreads at 55 centsTilson Right, Chinese company is a fraud buyout not real: 8 ProfitTilson Wrong, Chinese company is a fraud but buyout real: -1 Losshttp://seekingalpha.com/symbol/MONT?s=montWhy I Just Made Montage Technology Group My Largest Short PositionWhitney Tilson • Today, 12:30 PM • 2 CommentsChina Orders Montage Technology To Cease Production And SaleAristides Capital • Today, 8:13 AM • 25 Comments Montage's stated set top box revenue is not consistent with its reputation as a very minor player; other brands dominate Montage by 10:1 to 35:1 among suppliers and finished goods. Montage produces the majority of chips in a 5 million chip per month black market; China's government recently ordered them to "stop illegal production and sales activities immediately". Excluding illegal chips, Montage trades at roughly 10x revenue. Neither PDSTI nor anyone else is likely to buy MONT at this price. Any of numerous catalysts could drop MONT precipitously.
MONT Jan 2015 20 - 15 put spreads at 55 centsTilson Right, Chinese company is a fraud buyout not real: 8 ProfitTilson Wrong, Chinese company is a fraud but buyout real: -1 Losshttp://seekingalpha.com/symbol/MONT?s=montWhy I Just Made Montage Technology Group My Largest Short PositionWhitney Tilson • Today, 12:30 PM • 2 CommentsChina Orders Montage Technology To Cease Production And SaleAristides Capital • Today, 8:13 AM • 25 Comments Montage's stated set top box revenue is not consistent with its reputation as a very minor player; other brands dominate Montage by 10:1 to 35:1 among suppliers and finished goods. Montage produces the majority of chips in a 5 million chip per month black market; China's government recently ordered them to "stop illegal production and sales activities immediately". Excluding illegal chips, Montage trades at roughly 10x revenue. Neither PDSTI nor anyone else is likely to buy MONT at this price. Any of numerous catalysts could drop MONT precipitously.
Quote from: PatientCheetah on June 12, 2014, 06:36:55 PMQuote from: JBird on June 12, 2014, 05:07:19 PMGift cards going for curious prices:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=231251221870And seller is charging $2.32 for email delivery...buying using stolen credit cards? I was curious why there were so many gift cards on sale at 80-90 face value. Then I learned hackers were laundering stolen gift cards using these gift cards reselling sites. The discount is warranted because any stolen cards have some possibility of being cancelled.That makes it clear why cards should sell at a discount, but the one I linked was selling at a premium. The face value was $50. It sold for $162.50.