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koshigoe

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Re: SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
« Reply #500 on: February 28, 2018, 04:14:20 PM »
SRG has contractual right to sell back JVs to Simon, Mac, GGP in 3-6 weeks.  It seems looking at the fine print they need to have met certain leasing occupancy, but all the JVs are fully leased (albeit to Sears).  This could be source of 300m if need arises.


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Re: SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
« Reply #501 on: February 28, 2018, 09:06:16 PM »
Where do you get above numbers from? The base rents from Sears (the $155 NOI/year, I assume) are not stable, they are falling quicker right now then the rents from redevelopment projects rise, due to accelerated store closures. I would also pretty much assume that Sears by  the end of Y2019 wonít exist in itís current form any more.

Also, the 6% CP rate assumption is too low. Kimco, which owns on average B properties like Sears does, trades at an almost 8% CP rate right now.I think 7% cap rate would be more realistic. Still, the redevelopments are value accrediting, but just not that much. I also predict that SRG will have to raise equity this year.

I like SRG, but there are a lot of headwinds to the redevelopment story.

In the link i posted is a table with "Projected Annual Income", there you can see the expected incremental rent. And when they sell JV to Simon for caprates of ~5.2% i assume that the rest of the portfolio is not worth much less. Of course i know whats going on in the REIT space, there are lots of other good opportunities there. SRG has cash of $415 million and needs ~$800 million to the end of 2019, while they can sell the JV (currently valued at $280 million) so the funding gap to 2019 is around $100 million right now.
The risks i see is that they are not able to lease out all of the additional space and that caprates in the private market go up. Maybe i was to optimistic with my position sizing and after having slept not that well i will probably reduce my position today. Concentration is really not my game. :)

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Re: SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
« Reply #502 on: March 01, 2018, 04:13:24 AM »

In the link i posted is a table with "Projected Annual Income", there you can see the expected incremental rent. And when they sell JV to Simon for caprates of ~5.2% i assume that the rest of the portfolio is not worth much less. Of course i know whats going on in the REIT space, there are lots of other good opportunities there. SRG has cash of $415 million and needs ~$800 million to the end of 2019, while they can sell the JV (currently valued at $280 million) so the funding gap to 2019 is around $100 million right now.
The risks i see is that they are not able to lease out all of the additional space and that caprates in the private market go up. Maybe i was to optimistic with my position sizing and after having slept not that well i will probably reduce my position today. Concentration is really not my game. :)

I know where the additional NOI is coming from - roughly $115M annually from the $1.1B Development pipeline, but I think assuming that the base NOI of $155M is stable if far of base. the base NOI is dropping quickly, right now even quicker than development pipeline completions add to it. That is why the NOI is falling right and and I think it might keep falling until the pipeline Ames their way through and the Sears store closing abate or more likely, when they are all closed. Thus, total NOI will be much smaller than the $273M number you cited for Q4 2019, IMO.

I didnít know about the 5.2% Cap rate on their JV properties to SPG, but I think those are A property locations and hand selected by SPG (some are in SPG existing malls), so I donít think they are representative of SRG portfolio.

SRG on average are B mall locations, the $17/sqft rent on completed redevelopment properties tells us that much.

I donít think that SRG is a bad bet, but there does seem to be a cash shortfall. selling JV properties will improve their balance sheet, but selling rented assets will also lower the NOI, so it is not that straightforward of a case. I am watching this and I think we might see prices that are better than what WEB paid for his stock somewhere down the road.
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Re: SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
« Reply #503 on: March 01, 2018, 07:23:37 AM »
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180227006647/en/

While the numbers look not that good on the first view, on a second look they are not that bad. My NAV valuation for the end of 2019 has increased by 5$ this quarter which is a lot for one quarter. Maybe the market now recognizes this as a true redevelopment story.

Q3 2019 NOI forecast: $232.32 (155+77.3)
Q4 2019 NOI forecast: $273.40 (155+118)

Q3 2019 NAV/share 50$ at 6% caprate
Q4 2019 NAV/share 55$ at 6% caprate

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« Reply #504 on: March 01, 2018, 11:02:12 AM »
Agree that an equity raise seems more and more likely.  If the shares react poorly, the best time to buy might be when they announce it.

Has anyone done a deep dive into the quality of the properties?  I have a friend in commercial real estate who has mentioned that they have a number of 'garbage' properties which he has looked at.

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Re: SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
« Reply #505 on: March 01, 2018, 11:09:39 AM »
The '17 10-K says the following on page 46:
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Pursuant to the provisions of the Master Lease and many third-party leases, the Company is entitled to be reimbursed for certain property related expenses.  For the years ended December 31, 2017 and December 31, 2016, the Company recorded tenant reimbursement income of $62.5 million and $62.3 million, respectively, compared to property operating expenses and real estate tax expense aggregating of $65.3 million and $65.2 million, respectively.

Page F-22 shows $51.7 million in tenant reimbursements from the master lease. Does that mean third-party tenants paid reimbursements of $10.8 million or $62.5 million minus $51.7 million? What is the $10.5 million unearned tenant reimbursements line on page F-35?


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Re: SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
« Reply #506 on: March 01, 2018, 05:09:35 PM »
Agree that an equity raise seems more and more likely.  If the shares react poorly, the best time to buy might be when they announce it.

Has anyone done a deep dive into the quality of the properties?  I have a friend in commercial real estate who has mentioned that they have a number of 'garbage' properties which he has looked at.

They are going to have to raise more cash in the near future. I agree with you that an equity raise is possible. Another possibility is that they negotiate a new, larger mortgage loan. The yield maintenance provision on their current mortgage loan expires in about a week, so we may be hearing something soon. 

Some of their properties are definitely "garbage." Some are quite valuable. There is a table near the end of the 10-K that lays out SRG's acquisition cost for each property. It's a pretty good guide to the properties' relative values (aka their values relative to each other).
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Re: SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
« Reply #507 on: March 01, 2018, 11:38:45 PM »
Coatailing is always dangerous Ďcause it makes the coatailer less suspicious. Iím a shareholder and Iím increasing my position at current prices, but I dontít think this is a fast trade, it will take years for the underlying value to surface and itís not sure thing!

Thanks, i am guilty. Thinking about it it is funny that i got lured into this "growth" investment just because Buffet is involved. I should just stick to my quant models, i feel much more comfortable there.

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Re: SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
« Reply #508 on: March 03, 2018, 12:35:11 AM »
Does Buffett still have this in his personal portfolio? On the major owners register I can't see him listed anywhere?

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Re: SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
« Reply #509 on: March 03, 2018, 04:19:35 AM »
I see the 13g from dec 2015 under his name...but are 13g's necessary to be filed if there is no change?