Author Topic: Another Case of Racial Profiling  (Read 5905 times)

Vish_ram

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Re: Another Case of Racial Profiling
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2019, 08:48:52 AM »
The funny or sad thing about racial profiling is:

There is no emphasis on complying with law enforcement officials. Even in Eric Garners case, not one person on TV said, he should be complying with arrest even if it was unwarranted. Why defy and then enrage cops? This escalation leads to unpredictable results, not to mention excessive force.

Society needs to focus on bad apples. 10 times that attention should be paid on citizen's lack of politeness, show of defiance, attitude etc. This highlights the inconvenient truth - high proportion of kids growing up with single parents, teen pregnancy, the music culture that glorifies hostility, crime, violence, defiance, immorality etc.

Guess, no one has guts to go after the root of the problem. It becomes politically incorrect.


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Re: Another Case of Racial Profiling
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2019, 10:40:35 AM »
The funny or sad thing about racial profiling is:

There is no emphasis on complying with law enforcement officials. Even in Eric Garners case, not one person on TV said, he should be complying with arrest even if it was unwarranted. Why defy and then enrage cops? This escalation leads to unpredictable results, not to mention excessive force.

Society needs to focus on bad apples. 10 times that attention should be paid on citizen's lack of politeness, show of defiance, attitude etc. This highlights the inconvenient truth - high proportion of kids growing up with single parents, teen pregnancy, the music culture that glorifies hostility, crime, violence, defiance, immorality etc.

Guess, no one has guts to go after the root of the problem. It becomes politically incorrect.

A great post!

What happened to personal responsibility and accountability?   Being a "victim" is the easy way out.


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Re: Another Case of Racial Profiling
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2019, 11:10:45 AM »


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he should be complying with arrest even if it was unwarranted. Why defy and then enrage cops? This escalation leads to unpredictable results, not to mention excessive force.

Really illustrative of what is important to people.

This is a (generally) free society, so if someone has a government license to take away people’s freedom, they are the ones held to a higher standard, not everyone else. The police are not a protected class of citizen upon which we must all walk on eggshells, lest we “enrage” them.
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Re: Another Case of Racial Profiling
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2019, 11:50:24 AM »


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he should be complying with arrest even if it was unwarranted. Why defy and then enrage cops? This escalation leads to unpredictable results, not to mention excessive force.

Really illustrative of what is important to people.

This is a (generally) free society, so if someone has a government license to take away people’s freedom, they are the ones held to a higher standard, not everyone else. The police are not a protected class of citizen upon which we must all walk on eggshells, lest we “enrage” them.

They kind of are, or at least that's how you should approach them if you are a half intelligent person. I was always raised to comply with the officer and then take the issue up afterwards. Never had any problems with cops.... I mean especially if you think they are out to get you!!! How stupid can someone be?

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Re: Another Case of Racial Profiling
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2019, 01:10:18 PM »
I think how one answer's that question probably gets to the root of a lot of social unrest with the police and law enforcement.

Should L.E.Os be a special class of citizen upon which we treat with eggshells?
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Re: Another Case of Racial Profiling
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2019, 01:43:44 PM »
When they made you a sign to slow down in Kentucky did you raise your hand with one finger in response?

If not, then where was your cop outrage at the time?

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Re: Another Case of Racial Profiling
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2019, 01:59:19 PM »
When they made you a sign to slow down in Kentucky did you raise your hand with one finger in response?

If not, then where was your cop outrage at the time?
Where did I say we shouldn't let law enforcement do their job of enforcing laws? I haven't and I don't believe that. I said they need to be held to a higher standard of conduct while doing their job, because it is a much more consequential job than, say, a value investor  ;D

And it was Kansas (although I do get the two "K" states confused sometimes...probably out of fear they will add a third... ;D)
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Re: Another Case of Racial Profiling
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2019, 03:14:06 PM »
Confused between Kansas and Kentucky??? I mean why even continuing any discussion? Are you confused with States starting with a "New" as well?

And yeah they should be held to a high standard but, when you deal with "animals" all day long, and I mean of all colors, then I would expect a few bad instances/encounters once in a while. Again normal curve which you should know if you are a value investor as you claim.

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Re: Another Case of Racial Profiling
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2019, 03:23:31 PM »
Confused between Kansas and Kentucky??? I mean why even continuing any discussion? Are you confused with States starting with a "New" as well?
I'm more concerned you couldn't remember the story correctly!

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And yeah they should be held to a high standard but, when you deal with "animals" all day long, and I mean of all colors, then I would expect a few bad instances/encounters once in a while. Again normal curve which you should know if you are a value investor as you claim.
Which is exactly why the statistics on police violence are so alarming and speak to a more widespread problem than a few 'bad apples'. I'll refer you again to the many studies and datasets compiled on this issue, some of which are posted in this very thread. (This is actually the third time I'm making this suggestion to you, although you may have forgotten the first two instances  ::))
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Re: Another Case of Racial Profiling
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2019, 03:53:51 PM »
You are a complete waste of time. I would say a whole lot more but, Parsad will kick me out.

He too is funny, all this debate about colored people, against immigration laws but, his parents to my knowledge didn't come like the Chinese to Vancouver in some container. They followed the law.

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