Author Topic: Art of the Deal  (Read 28937 times)

cubsfan

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Re: Art of the Deal
« Reply #170 on: January 06, 2019, 04:08:29 PM »
All the citizens want is a secure border - certainly can be part wall, part security fence - whatever.

It works like a charm in Israel - it worked in Berlin - it'll work here.

The only reason the Democratic Party does not want border security is to flip Red States to Blue States.
It wasn't that long ago that Obama, Boxer, Schumer, Clinton - all wanted border security until
they saw that California was flipped to permanently Democratic by uncontrolled illegal immigration.

At that point, the light went on in the Democratic Party to wreck the country with uncontrolled
illegal immigration - all for political power.

California - 50% pay no income tax, 23% on welfare, schools last in the nation, worst infrastructure in the US,
prisons over represented by criminal illegal immigrants.

Welcome to paradise - courtesy of uncontrolled illegal immigration - but, hey, it's controlled by Democrats!

You ought to go live in Central California for a few months and see what a disaster the place is.
You would be amazed - and you certainly wouldn't want to live there.
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LC

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Re: Art of the Deal
« Reply #171 on: January 06, 2019, 04:12:21 PM »
LOL LC, none of your bolded questions have anything to do with the effectiveness, and everything to do with your opinion that it isn't needed....
You want to compare US-mexico wall to berlin/israel you have to account for the differences.
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Re: Art of the Deal
« Reply #172 on: January 06, 2019, 04:31:51 PM »
LOL LC, none of your bolded questions have anything to do with the effectiveness, and everything to do with your opinion that it isn't needed....
You want to compare US-mexico wall to berlin/israel you have to account for the differences.

So under much more extreme circumstances(war) it worked, but here(just keeping bums out) it won't. Ok......

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Re: Art of the Deal
« Reply #173 on: January 06, 2019, 04:40:29 PM »
LC, no one gives a f*** what the crimes rates are for illegals because they shouldn't be here committing crimes period.

As far as everything else, all you guys do is bitch and moan. They separate criminals at the border, "oh its horrible". They want to put up a wall? "oh it won't work". They keep them in detention centers, "oh the atrocities". You guys oppose everything. Let's put up a wall, make it electric, and surround it with barbed wire. Have drones circle the areas and if necessary fire rubber bullets at trespassers. These bums want to keep encroaching, they can risk electrocution, getting mangled, or shot. Or you know, they can come over safe and sound, legally...

You keep bitching about liberals and no one cares about illegals and what we are saying...what about Fox News?

https://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-apos-chris-wallace-184340199.html

It's not liberals...it's common sense that you don't like.  Democrats passed 8 new funding agreements to support border security, but Trump won't pass those because he wants the wall.  He's going to keep the government shutdown going even when there is no need to...because he wants everything in one bill.  Cheers!
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Re: Art of the Deal
« Reply #174 on: January 06, 2019, 05:15:19 PM »
LOL LC, none of your bolded questions have anything to do with the effectiveness, and everything to do with your opinion that it isn't needed....
You want to compare US-mexico wall to berlin/israel you have to account for the differences.

So under much more extreme circumstances(war) it worked, but here(just keeping bums out) it won't. Ok......

Do a little bit of research first before spouting nonsense (OK well I had to at least try)

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/13/ron-johnson/border-fence-israel-cut-illegal-immigration-99-per/

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The number of illegal border crossings decreased drastically "in an extremely short time" after the implementation of an "Anti-Infiltration Law" in mid 2012, Jakubowicz said. 

Under the law, individuals caught illegally entering Israel could be detained for up to three years, Jakubowicz said. The number of people illegally crossing Israelís southern border decreased after the law came into effect, even though the fence was not fully completed, he said.

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On a small scale and with many guards, walls can effectively stop movement, Jones said.

But Israel and the United Statesí southern borders are significantly different.

The Israel-Egypt border fence is about 150 miles.

The U.S.-Mexico border is nearly 2,000 miles.

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"Most of the Israeli fence goes through open, arid terrain. Easy to access, easy to build, easy to monitor with agents," Jones said.

Maybe you should be pushing for a moat.
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Re: Art of the Deal
« Reply #175 on: January 06, 2019, 05:51:12 PM »
I didn't realize your many talents included the ability to ascertain the emotional state of someone you don't know, a thousand miles away while over the internet. You should put together a circus act.
I'm sure you would be in big demand.

I beg your pardon?  What is the meaning of all of this?



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Re: Art of the Deal
« Reply #176 on: January 06, 2019, 06:01:12 PM »
California prisons have around 30,000 criminal aliens - a staggering number.

What is your source?







LC

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Re: Art of the Deal
« Reply #177 on: January 06, 2019, 06:37:12 PM »
I'd like to know if the wall supports are in support of a hunting down and kicking out all illegal immigrants living in the US, and what they plan on doing that.

By some accounts there are about 22 million illegal immigrants in the US
https://thehill.com/latino/407848-yale-mit-study-22-million-not-11-million-undocumented-immigrants-in-us

By latest counts, there are about 300,000 illegal immigrants crossing into the US annually, and that is falling.

Therefore it would take over 70 years of the wall just to prevent the existing illegal immigration in the US.

Why aren't you guys pushing for taking this money and enforcing citizenship tests? Door to door INS raids? Mandatory citizenship checks. Citizenship cards which must be held at all times. Or are you going to wait 70 years to handle that?
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Re: Art of the Deal
« Reply #178 on: January 06, 2019, 06:48:49 PM »
I'd like to know if the wall supports are in support of a hunting down and kicking out all illegal immigrants living in the US, and what they plan on doing that.

By some accounts there are about 22 million illegal immigrants in the US
https://thehill.com/latino/407848-yale-mit-study-22-million-not-11-million-undocumented-immigrants-in-us

By latest counts, there are about 300,000 illegal immigrants crossing into the US annually, and that is falling.

Therefore it would take over 70 years of the wall just to prevent the existing illegal immigration in the US.

Why aren't you guys pushing for taking this money and enforcing citizenship tests? Door to door INS raids? Mandatory citizenship checks. Citizenship cards which must be held at all times. Or are you going to wait 70 years to handle that?

Good lord, where does it stop with you guys?

We ratchet up ICE and you libs protest, cry racism, and want to abolish it.

We target them, and you guys want sanctuary cities.

As has already been said, liberals just want to obstruct ANY solution because this "let them all in/stay" movement is a methodical pay for play type of scheme. All the cesspools that harbor these criminals are irreversibly turning darker and darker blue. Which is the end goal here and why liberals oppose any real effort stop this.

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Re: Art of the Deal
« Reply #179 on: January 06, 2019, 06:55:50 PM »
Oh I'm just saying if you were rationally interested in removing illegal immigrants from the US, you have a handful of things you should be pushing for, instead of wall.

The fact that you aren't, is illuminating.
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