Author Topic: Could Trump go out with a bang?  (Read 8746 times)

Gregmal

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Re: Could Trump go out with a bang?
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2020, 06:39:46 AM »
What are you doing on an investment board if you dont care about money?

But in other news....since "all you care about is money" seems to be the odd little gotcha slogan lately...

-how much money have you donated to charitable causes LTM?
-how many hours have you spent volunteering for a cause LTM?
-how much money have you forgone in pursuit of the greater things in life over the past 5 years?

Feel free not to answer because we know you guys are full of shit, and again I'd probably place a penny or two on my answers to those questions making some of the "you only care about money" folks look pretty moneycentric. I guess its easy to virtue signal and play philanthropist from the basement while breathing through six N95s and holding a Clorox bottle close by while otherwise doing nothing.


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Re: Could Trump go out with a bang?
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2020, 10:52:53 AM »
No, it only proves that I think you are troll on an investment board.

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Re: Could Trump go out with a bang?
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2020, 06:04:30 AM »
-how much money have you donated to charitable causes LTM?

The question I always have for big government types is how much extra do you send to your government above and beyond what they say you owe?  When you can choose which causes to support why do you not choose your government?  If taxation is the best way to solve every problem in society shouldn't all of your charitable giving go to the US Treasury?

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Re: Could Trump go out with a bang?
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2020, 07:23:17 AM »
Perhaps the title could be:  "Could Trump go out with a whine?" 

Hillary called Trump and conceded the day after the election and Obama invited Trump to the White House immediately. And despite that, the Republicans still called the Dems "sore losers".  If they were sore losers, then this makes Trump a whiny pussy crybaby times a billion.

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Re: Could Trump go out with a bang?
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2020, 08:28:21 AM »
-how much money have you donated to charitable causes LTM?

The question I always have for big government types is how much extra do you send to your government above and beyond what they say you owe?  When you can choose which causes to support why do you not choose your government?  If taxation is the best way to solve every problem in society shouldn't all of your charitable giving go to the US Treasury?

I think we should tax like the Democrats and spend like the Republicans.

My preference is to pay for shipping of containers. Itís a lot easier to collect donations of goods from individuals and Companies in the US and Europe than it is to collect the funds needed for shipping.  Most are headed to Africa. Itís a lot cheaper to ship a container from Spain than from Florida. So look to help with shipping there instead of the US.

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Re: Could Trump go out with a bang?
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2020, 08:46:32 AM »
-how much money have you donated to charitable causes LTM?

The question I always have for big government types is how much extra do you send to your government above and beyond what they say you owe?  When you can choose which causes to support why do you not choose your government?  If taxation is the best way to solve every problem in society shouldn't all of your charitable giving go to the US Treasury?

This is a fair criticism I think. I'll give you my opinion - I think it boils down to inflexibility.

Let's say I believe the most important facet of the federal gov't is nuclear energy regulation/oversight (i.e. the Dept of Energy).

If I pay an extra $1 tax to "the government", the vast majority will go to military spending based on the current federal budget. Maybe 3 cents gets to the DOE.

However, I also recognize that getting rid of all government is an even worse situation, because now there is no DOE at all.

So I am at the whim of the federal budget. Now how is the federal budget set? It is proposed by Congress - which is made up of a representative (hah) group of elected officials. In other words, it's a compromise. Because for every LC there is someone else who thinks 99% of tax money should go towards the military.

I think of taxes as the minimum payment that everyone makes as a compromise. Some areas are best served by centralized service that all people contribute towards, I think most can agree with that statement. Which areas are those? How much contribution is needed? Well that is all up for debate and in our democratic republic, Congress holds that debate.

And then above that, there is the option for individuals to donate to specific areas.

In a roundabout way, this is what elections are for. If you want to pay more taxes and have them directed at healthcare (for instance), you can vote for elected officials who share your views.
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Re: Could Trump go out with a bang?
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2020, 04:02:29 PM »
-how much money have you donated to charitable causes LTM?

The question I always have for big government types is how much extra do you send to your government above and beyond what they say you owe?  When you can choose which causes to support why do you not choose your government?  If taxation is the best way to solve every problem in society shouldn't all of your charitable giving go to the US Treasury?

This is a fair criticism I think. I'll give you my opinion - I think it boils down to inflexibility.

Let's say I believe the most important facet of the federal gov't is nuclear energy regulation/oversight (i.e. the Dept of Energy).

If I pay an extra $1 tax to "the government", the vast majority will go to military spending based on the current federal budget. Maybe 3 cents gets to the DOE.

However, I also recognize that getting rid of all government is an even worse situation, because now there is no DOE at all.

So I am at the whim of the federal budget. Now how is the federal budget set? It is proposed by Congress - which is made up of a representative (hah) group of elected officials. In other words, it's a compromise. Because for every LC there is someone else who thinks 99% of tax money should go towards the military.

I think of taxes as the minimum payment that everyone makes as a compromise. Some areas are best served by centralized service that all people contribute towards, I think most can agree with that statement. Which areas are those? How much contribution is needed? Well that is all up for debate and in our democratic republic, Congress holds that debate.

And then above that, there is the option for individuals to donate to specific areas.

In a roundabout way, this is what elections are for. If you want to pay more taxes and have them directed at healthcare (for instance), you can vote for elected officials who share your views.

If we could choose where our taxes go, I would hands down make sure it goes to the shrimp on treadmills program.
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Re: Could Trump go out with a bang?
« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2020, 04:40:48 PM »
-how much money have you donated to charitable causes LTM?

The question I always have for big government types is how much extra do you send to your government above and beyond what they say you owe?  When you can choose which causes to support why do you not choose your government?  If taxation is the best way to solve every problem in society shouldn't all of your charitable giving go to the US Treasury?

This is a fair criticism I think. I'll give you my opinion - I think it boils down to inflexibility.

Let's say I believe the most important facet of the federal gov't is nuclear energy regulation/oversight (i.e. the Dept of Energy).

If I pay an extra $1 tax to "the government", the vast majority will go to military spending based on the current federal budget. Maybe 3 cents gets to the DOE.

However, I also recognize that getting rid of all government is an even worse situation, because now there is no DOE at all.

So I am at the whim of the federal budget. Now how is the federal budget set? It is proposed by Congress - which is made up of a representative (hah) group of elected officials. In other words, it's a compromise. Because for every LC there is someone else who thinks 99% of tax money should go towards the military.

I think of taxes as the minimum payment that everyone makes as a compromise. Some areas are best served by centralized service that all people contribute towards, I think most can agree with that statement. Which areas are those? How much contribution is needed? Well that is all up for debate and in our democratic republic, Congress holds that debate.

And then above that, there is the option for individuals to donate to specific areas.

In a roundabout way, this is what elections are for. If you want to pay more taxes and have them directed at healthcare (for instance), you can vote for elected officials who share your views.

If we could choose where our taxes go, I would hands down make sure it goes to the shrimp on treadmills program.

Sure but the problem is that it wouldn't be run as efficiently as a private shrimp on treadmill organization would.

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Re: Could Trump go out with a bang?
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2020, 07:51:05 AM »
I agree with Tulsi, Snowden and Assange should get pardons. Make it happen Donny.