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Cutting The Heads Off The Hydra
« on: January 13, 2021, 12:17:06 PM »
One of my big concerns is Trump having significant sway and power over the Republican party after he's out of office.  With his support of the insurrection, it looks like cutting off the heads of the orange Hydra may be coming to fruition. 

First, we have his power in office stripped away.  Second, we essentially have the major social media companies ban him.  And now third, all manner of the public and private sector are ending business ties.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nyc-terminate-trump-contracts-capitol-133150848.html

Now if Deutsche Bank would only call his loans and wipe him out!  Cheers!
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Re: Cutting The Heads Off The Hydra
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2021, 12:31:56 PM »
I wish Jeff Bezos would buy his debt from Deutsche Bank. I'm sure he could get it at a discount, haha

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Re: Cutting The Heads Off The Hydra
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2021, 12:59:05 PM »
Hundreds of National Guard Troops Quartered in Capitol Building

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hundreds-national-guard-troops-quarter-144600273.html

When you talk about "patriots"...these are "patriots"...not the sorry ass Trump supporters that stormed the Capitol!

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Re: Cutting The Heads Off The Hydra
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2021, 01:22:14 PM »
Parsad, don't worry, I think he's going to "go through something" we just have to be patient to see an outcome for a couple of reasons. First, this is one of the largest crime scenes in history and will likely result in more prosecutions than anything I can think of. Second, there is an ongoing threat from the radicalized elements and moving too fast will stoke their loss aversion so moving slowly is not necessarily a bad thing.

At this moment there are still 53 votes left to go, but with already having 9 Republicans to impeach, Don just became the President to have more members of his own party to vote for his impeachment than any other President in US history. I believe the previous record was five for Bill Clinton, but I'm going by memory.

As far as conviction goes in the Senate, if the trial were held tomorrow, I believe we would be surprised to see that more than 3x that number of republicans would vote to convict in the house. If the vote was held in 100 days, my guess is that the number voting to convict would be closer to 100% of Republicans than 50%. On either time schedule I think it would result in a conviction.

EDIT: The finally tally was ten votes to convict from his own party so possibly 2x the previous record? That is an ominous sign for Trump as to what could happen in the Senate.

What's going on in the Congress is all just show. Trump has not managed to corrupt the Secret Service, FBI or the military, so the wheels of justice will have their chance to turn slowly. The way things are going with his precious lawyer, he may be left with an enthusiastic defense team like these two:

https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1348760270198472708

Be sure to watch to the end to get a nice laugh.
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Re: Cutting The Heads Off The Hydra
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2021, 01:24:16 PM »
Parsad, don't worry I think he's going to "go through something" we just have to be patient for a couple of reasons. First, this is one of the largest crime scenes in history and will likely result in more prosecutions than anything I can think of. Second, there is an ongoing threat from the radicalized elements and moving too fast will stoke their loss aversion so moving slowly is not necessarily a bad thing.

At this moment there are still 53 votes left to go, but with already having 9 Republicans to impeach, Don just became the President to have more members of his own party to vote for his impeachment than any other President in US history. I believe the previous record was five for Bill Clinton, but I'm going by memory.

As far as conviction goes in the Senate, if the trial were held tomorrow, I believe we would be surprised to see that more than 3x that number of republicans would vote to convict in the house. If the vote was held in 100 days, my guess is that the number voting to convict would be closer to 100% of Republicans than 50%.

Problem is, I want to make sure Don Jr. and Eric are stripped of wealth, power and influence as well.  Many heads to this orange Hydra!  Cheers!
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Re: Cutting The Heads Off The Hydra
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2021, 01:28:40 PM »
Parsad, don't worry I think he's going to "go through something" we just have to be patient for a couple of reasons. First, this is one of the largest crime scenes in history and will likely result in more prosecutions than anything I can think of. Second, there is an ongoing threat from the radicalized elements and moving too fast will stoke their loss aversion so moving slowly is not necessarily a bad thing.

At this moment there are still 53 votes left to go, but with already having 9 Republicans to impeach, Don just became the President to have more members of his own party to vote for his impeachment than any other President in US history. I believe the previous record was five for Bill Clinton, but I'm going by memory.

As far as conviction goes in the Senate, if the trial were held tomorrow, I believe we would be surprised to see that more than 3x that number of republicans would vote to convict in the house. If the vote was held in 100 days, my guess is that the number voting to convict would be closer to 100% of Republicans than 50%.

Problem is, I want to make sure Don Jr. and Eric are stripped of wealth, power and influence as well.  Many heads to this orange Hydra!  Cheers!
I don't think any of them are intellectually curious enough to realize what is about to happen to them. You're wishing for about 1% of what I expect will happen, but it will take a while and it is going to be multiple prosecutions in multiple jurisdictions. SDNY is probably all set to go on January 20th, which is undoubtedly why he was trying to fly out of the Country. The interesting thing is that Secret Service will know where is at all times even after leaving office and will be with him 24/7, so any rescue attempt will need to be much better executed than the insurrection was.

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Re: Cutting The Heads Off The Hydra
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2021, 01:38:00 PM »
I wish Jeff Bezos would buy his debt from Deutsche Bank. I'm sure he could get it at a discount, haha
Those claims might be worthless, except as revenge.

I know people who basically specialize in going after people like Trump in cases like this. They have been telling me for two decades that no reputable banker would lend to Trump and that he was on a "no fly list" for banks and that something funny must be going on for a banker to lend to him.

I think the explanation for why Deutschebank got involved with him, lies in this NYT article from a few weeks ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/business/trump-deutsche-bank-rosemary-vrablic.html
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The reasons for Ms. Vrablicís abrupt resignation were not clear. Deutsche Bank in August opened an internal review into a 2013 real estate transaction between Ms. Vrablic and a company owned in part by Jared Kushner, the son-in-law of Mr. Trump and a client of Ms. Vrablicís. Dominic Scalzi, a longtime colleague of Ms. Vrablicís who played a role in that transaction, will also leave the bank.

Sounds like their might be the potential for RICO charges to me, along with other likely charges, but then I've been saying for a couple of years that he would go down for RICO, so I probably have a bias.

It's SDNY's case, but the irony that the Secret Service has primary responsibility for at least three of the crimes that Trump could be charged with just kills me. I mean they should know where he is 24/7 for the rest of his life.

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Re: Cutting The Heads Off The Hydra
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2021, 04:21:02 PM »
Haven't been following politics much. Heard about the attack and read trump's speech that allegedly incited the violence. Didn't notice anything? Did you guys read the speech instead of the media about the speech? Clearly what happened is bad. I don't see the inciting. That said, I don't like trump. I like small govt.

I read a NYT article after that and it seemed they just butchered what he said out of context with their "analysis".


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Re: Cutting The Heads Off The Hydra
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2021, 04:31:30 PM »
Parsad, don't worry I think he's going to "go through something" we just have to be patient for a couple of reasons. First, this is one of the largest crime scenes in history and will likely result in more prosecutions than anything I can think of. Second, there is an ongoing threat from the radicalized elements and moving too fast will stoke their loss aversion so moving slowly is not necessarily a bad thing.

At this moment there are still 53 votes left to go, but with already having 9 Republicans to impeach, Don just became the President to have more members of his own party to vote for his impeachment than any other President in US history. I believe the previous record was five for Bill Clinton, but I'm going by memory.

As far as conviction goes in the Senate, if the trial were held tomorrow, I believe we would be surprised to see that more than 3x that number of republicans would vote to convict in the house. If the vote was held in 100 days, my guess is that the number voting to convict would be closer to 100% of Republicans than 50%.

Problem is, I want to make sure Don Jr. and Eric are stripped of wealth, power and influence as well.  Many heads to this orange Hydra!  Cheers!

I wouldnít be so sure about the wealth part. Sure, they may loose their cardboard real estate empire. However think about what they could do if they can monetize the followers that remain. I bet they could get 10 million to pay for access to a Trump Metaverse for $10/ month. Think about alternative reality TV, Trump message apps (Parler reloaded,) branded merchandise, perhaps Porn and online gambling somewhat segregated.

If he plays he cards right, he can monetize his presidency like no one else and this time it would be asset light and probably generate way more cash than his properties ever could.
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Re: Cutting The Heads Off The Hydra
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2021, 04:36:59 PM »
Parsad, don't worry I think he's going to "go through something" we just have to be patient for a couple of reasons. First, this is one of the largest crime scenes in history and will likely result in more prosecutions than anything I can think of. Second, there is an ongoing threat from the radicalized elements and moving too fast will stoke their loss aversion so moving slowly is not necessarily a bad thing.

At this moment there are still 53 votes left to go, but with already having 9 Republicans to impeach, Don just became the President to have more members of his own party to vote for his impeachment than any other President in US history. I believe the previous record was five for Bill Clinton, but I'm going by memory.

As far as conviction goes in the Senate, if the trial were held tomorrow, I believe we would be surprised to see that more than 3x that number of republicans would vote to convict in the house. If the vote was held in 100 days, my guess is that the number voting to convict would be closer to 100% of Republicans than 50%.

Problem is, I want to make sure Don Jr. and Eric are stripped of wealth, power and influence as well.  Many heads to this orange Hydra!  Cheers!

I wouldnít be so sure about the wealth part. Sure, they may loose their cardboard real estate empire. However think about what they could do if they can monetize the followers that remain. I bet they could get 10 million to pay for access to a Trump Metaverse for $10/ month. Think about alternative reality TV, Trump message apps (Parler reloaded,) branded merchandise, perhaps Porn and online gambling somewhat segregated.

If he plays he cards right, he can monetize his presidency like no one else and this time it would be asset light and probably generate way more cash than his properties ever could.

Yes, that's my biggest concern.  But if we could wipe him out with large civil suits, state investigations and lawsuits, reduced cashflow to existing businesses, it might push the Trump empire and Trump personal into creditor protection or even bankruptcy.  That might limit his ability to get media licenses or even act as an executive/director on corporate boards, etc.  This guy and everything about him has to go!  Cheers!
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