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rukawa

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Diversity in American tech companies
« on: February 14, 2020, 04:51:25 AM »
Tech companies are supposedly non-diverse. Most people think its because there are too many white people. Here is the racial breakdown of Uber:
White: 50%
Asian: 33%
Black: 9%
Latino: 8.3%

Here is the breakdown for America as a whole:
White: 72%
Asian: 5%
Black: 12.6%
Latino: 16.3%

Diversity efforts are supposed to come at the expense of whites who are the dominant group. But white are already grossly underrepresented. Now of course since no one defends whites except racists and since whites are dominant in the executive suites...well the implication is obvious. White will continue to be made to suffer for the sins of...Asians. What is the sin of Asians? Well to be better educated than everyone else I guess.

I honestly don't understand how any of this is fair to anyone and how it won't lead to huge problems in the future. People keep defending this bullshit and I honestly don't get why.


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Re: Diversity in American tech companies
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2020, 05:33:43 AM »
Tech companies are supposedly non-diverse. Most people think its because there are too many white people. Here is the racial breakdown of Uber:
White: 50%
Asian: 33%
Black: 9%
Latino: 8.3%

Here is the breakdown for America as a whole:
White: 72%
Asian: 5%
Black: 12.6%
Latino: 16.3%

Diversity efforts are supposed to come at the expense of whites who are the dominant group. But white are already grossly underrepresented. Now of course since no one defends whites except racists and since whites are dominant in the executive suites...well the implication is obvious. White will continue to be made to suffer for the sins of...Asians. What is the sin of Asians? Well to be better educated than everyone else I guess.

I honestly don't understand how any of this is fair to anyone and how it won't lead to huge problems in the future. People keep defending this bullshit and I honestly don't get why.

Because Progressivism has become a religion and Diversity is one of their sacraments.  Why not just always hire the best person you can find for any given job regardless of race, gender, or who they have sex with?   Because that's a cardinal sin.

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Re: Diversity in American tech companies
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2020, 05:41:39 AM »
Reward someone on meritocracy and hardworking?

No - That makes too much common sense.

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Re: Diversity in American tech companies
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2020, 06:16:53 AM »
I do not understand the logic of diversity. Why not add more asians to the NBA teams?

Tech companies are supposedly non-diverse. Most people think its because there are too many white people. Here is the racial breakdown of Uber:
White: 50%
Asian: 33%
Black: 9%
Latino: 8.3%

Here is the breakdown for America as a whole:
White: 72%
Asian: 5%
Black: 12.6%
Latino: 16.3%

Diversity efforts are supposed to come at the expense of whites who are the dominant group. But white are already grossly underrepresented. Now of course since no one defends whites except racists and since whites are dominant in the executive suites...well the implication is obvious. White will continue to be made to suffer for the sins of...Asians. What is the sin of Asians? Well to be better educated than everyone else I guess.

I honestly don't understand how any of this is fair to anyone and how it won't lead to huge problems in the future. People keep defending this bullshit and I honestly don't get why.

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Re: Diversity in American tech companies
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2020, 06:26:48 AM »
On a professional level, I trained and worked in a field dominated by men (about 90 to 95%) and the main reasons for that are historical path dependency, passive resistance and some discrimination. Itís slowly changing and Iím OK with the direction of the change but it has been far too slow.

One of my daughters is entering a field (technology related) dominated by men. The main reasons for that are historical path dependency, passive resistance and some discrimination. Itís slowly changing and Iím OK with the direction of the change but it has been far too slow.

I donít like nonspecific reverse discrimination or cabbage-brain ideological solutions but the university where my daughter goes has some policies in place to deal with the side effects related to historical path dependency, passive resistance and some discrimination. Some would suggest that the university is trying to change the Ďnaturalí course of history but things really started to happen after somebody fighting feminism who felt women had no place in that school broke into classes in 1989 and shot 14 women dead.

Because you did something yesterday does not mean you should do it today and that often has very little to do with effort or merit. Diversity (racial or otherwise, technology or otherwise) is not a goal by itself but one should at least think about the artificial barriers.

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Re: Diversity in American tech companies
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2020, 06:48:48 AM »
I do not understand the logic of diversity. Why not add more asians to the NBA teams?

That would be entertaining.  I might actually start watching basketball.

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Re: Diversity in American tech companies
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2020, 06:53:03 AM »
On a professional level, I trained and worked in a field dominated by men (about 90 to 95%) and the main reasons for that are historical path dependency, passive resistance and some discrimination. Itís slowly changing and Iím OK with the direction of the change but it has been far too slow.

One of my daughters is entering a field (technology related) dominated by men. The main reasons for that are historical path dependency, passive resistance and some discrimination. Itís slowly changing and Iím OK with the direction of the change but it has been far too slow.

I donít like nonspecific reverse discrimination or cabbage-brain ideological solutions but the university where my daughter goes has some policies in place to deal with the side effects related to historical path dependency, passive resistance and some discrimination. Some would suggest that the university is trying to change the Ďnaturalí course of history but things really started to happen after somebody fighting feminism who felt women had no place in that school broke into classes in 1989 and shot 14 women dead.

Because you did something yesterday does not mean you should do it today and that often has very little to do with effort or merit. Diversity (racial or otherwise, technology or otherwise) is not a goal by itself but one should at least think about the artificial barriers.

Sure artificial barriers should be identified and torn down.  I don't think anyone reasonable opposes that.  But at the same time, strongly encouraging young girls to go into fields of study that they might not find as enjoyable as other fields just so the college and future employers can feel good about their gender statistics at the expense of her happiness isn't preferable either.

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Re: Diversity in American tech companies
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2020, 08:10:15 AM »
Tech companies are supposedly non-diverse. Most people think its because there are too many white people. Here is the racial breakdown of Uber:
White: 50%
Asian: 33%
Black: 9%
Latino: 8.3%

Here is the breakdown for America as a whole:
White: 72%
Asian: 5%
Black: 12.6%
Latino: 16.3%

Diversity efforts are supposed to come at the expense of whites who are the dominant group. But white are already grossly underrepresented. Now of course since no one defends whites except racists and since whites are dominant in the executive suites...well the implication is obvious. White will continue to be made to suffer for the sins of...Asians. What is the sin of Asians? Well to be better educated than everyone else I guess.

I honestly don't understand how any of this is fair to anyone and how it won't lead to huge problems in the future. People keep defending this bullshit and I honestly don't get why.

Because Progressivism has become a religion and Diversity is one of their sacraments. 


Why not just always hire the best person you can find for any given job regardless of race, gender, or who they have sex with?   Because that's a cardinal sin.

I think finding that best person is not easy. Many minorities don't have a strong network to tap into. My parents couldn't help. My dad is a cook and my works at garment factory. No one in my circle works in a corporate world when I was starting out in 2011.

I worked at 200 person financial services company. My peers all knew someone at relatively high up in the company. But the only reason their resumes got to the top of the pile was because they knew someone there. Don't get me wrong, they were all qualified to work there but so were many others in the resume pile.  I got in without any connections but I was the only person like for a few years...

I don't blame my peers though . If my parents/relatives worked in places I want to work, I would ask them to send along my resume too!



Yes, Asians have it rough. We are almost counted as white in tech/corporate world.

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Re: Diversity in American tech companies
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2020, 08:16:48 AM »
Yup, Asians and Jews always get the shaft.

Regarding hiring though, the above is right. Its almost entirely now, who you know. If you dont know anyone, you are required to send the resume through an online portal. If you are lucky some jerk off in HR will scan through while they scroll through social media feeds. But more often than not these online resume submissions are pre screened by automated programs and most never even see a human eye.

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Re: Diversity in American tech companies
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2020, 08:48:27 AM »

My dad is a Portuguese immigrant who never went to school (neither in Portugal nor in the US) and never learned to read or write.  Yet I had no problem getting a good job once I got my BSEE.  No one I knew was an engineer, no one my parents knew where engineers. Yet my career has gone quite well.
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