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Re: Trudeau to bring in 1.2MM immigrants over next 3 years
« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2020, 07:01:06 PM »
Well now have I got this correct? According to no_free_lunch it is not okay to use the word “raciest” but there is no problem in actually being islamophobic because ... now get this...  “Criticism of a religion is part of the constitution.”   REALLY??

Islam is not a race. I know you try to play that card but it's not. It is a religion and a political structure. If it is a race, then if someone converted to Islam, they would change their race, right?

No, they do not, therefore criticizing it is not racist.

How much have you studied Islam?

Secondly, why is criticizing it considered "Islamophobic?" Do you think it is okay to teach young people to behead others (as that video I posted earlier)? If not, are you Islamophobic?

Are you Islamophobic or do you agree that it's okay for a man to "lightly" beat his wife (that's the official stance of the Islamic Council in Pakistan)?

By the way, do you find it okay to hang nooses? If not, you are a KKKophobe (and racist!).

Now, I'm not comparing all Muslims to the KKK but I am comparing terrorists to terrorists.





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Re: Trudeau to bring in 1.2MM immigrants over next 3 years
« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2020, 07:11:23 PM »
Well now have I got this correct? According to no_free_lunch it is not okay to use the word “raciest” but there is no problem in actually being islamophobic because ... now get this...  “Criticism of a religion is part of the constitution.”   REALLY??

Islam is not a race. I know you try to play that card but it's not. It is a religion and a political structure. If it is a race, then if someone converted to Islam, they would change their race, right?

No, they do not, therefore criticizing it is not racist.

How much have you studied Islam?

Secondly, why is criticizing it considered "Islamophobic?" Do you think it is okay to teach young people to behead others (as that video I posted earlier)? If not, are you Islamophobic?

Are you Islamophobic or do you agree that it's okay for a man to "lightly" beat his wife (that's the official stance of the Islamic Council in Pakistan)?

By the way, do you find it okay to hang nooses? If not, you are a KKKophobe (and racist!).

Now, I'm not comparing all Muslims to the KKK but I am comparing terrorists to terrorists.
Do you have anything meaningful and based in reality to say about Canada's immigration system or did you find another channel to spill your bullshit?

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Re: Trudeau to bring in 1.2MM immigrants over next 3 years
« Reply #112 on: November 10, 2020, 07:16:41 PM »
Well now have I got this correct? According to no_free_lunch it is not okay to use the word “raciest” but there is no problem in actually being islamophobic because ... now get this...  “Criticism of a religion is part of the constitution.”   REALLY??

Islam is not a race. I know you try to play that card but it's not. It is a religion and a political structure. If it is a race, then if someone converted to Islam, they would change their race, right?

No, they do not, therefore criticizing it is not racist.

How much have you studied Islam?

Secondly, why is criticizing it considered "Islamophobic?" Do you think it is okay to teach young people to behead others (as that video I posted earlier)? If not, are you Islamophobic?

Are you Islamophobic or do you agree that it's okay for a man to "lightly" beat his wife (that's the official stance of the Islamic Council in Pakistan)?

By the way, do you find it okay to hang nooses? If not, you are a KKKophobe (and racist!).

Now, I'm not comparing all Muslims to the KKK but I am comparing terrorists to terrorists.
Do you have anything meaningful and based in reality to say about Canada's immigration system or did you find another channel to spill your bullshit?

What bs? Am I wrong? If so, please explain why.
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Re: Trudeau to bring in 1.2MM immigrants over next 3 years
« Reply #113 on: November 10, 2020, 07:29:18 PM »
Wait cwericb.  I said criticism. That doesn't mean people can say anything.  However if people are listing facts I don't see an issue. If their is discrimination or incitement to violence then you can't say it.  Maybe we can at least agree on that distinction.

Here's a fact...the current President has refused to share Security Intelligence Reports with the President-elect, who also happens to be a former Vice-President.  Don't you believe this is risking the security of the United States, especially if there is a transition of power, simply so the current President...a crying, whining, pussy...can put his interests ahead of the country's?  Cheers!

My guess, he would be okay sharing with president-elect Biden but knows it won't stop there.  He is concerned about leaks from the resistance (their words, not mine) that is within Biden's team.

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Re: Trudeau to bring in 1.2MM immigrants over next 3 years
« Reply #114 on: November 10, 2020, 07:39:08 PM »
You don't share national security information with someone who has not been elected. The vote cannot be certified at the moment.

If Trump has health issues we have Mike Pence who is truly capable.

Meanwhile Joe can relax and wait and see. He can go back to his retirement home. No point risking having a stroke.

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Re: Trudeau to bring in 1.2MM immigrants over next 3 years
« Reply #115 on: November 11, 2020, 03:59:29 AM »

No, I meant to type what I typed. Care to answer my questions now?

Why is it okay for even 1 citizen to die at the hands of these folks? Would you think differently if it were someone that you cared about that suffered a needless death?

What benefit does it provide to the citizens of Canada and the US to bring these folks into the country?

Why does a country have more duty to higher risk immigrants than its own people?

Oh, that's unfortunate.   Autocorrect seemed a more rational explanation.   (He was eleven 11.  All your fingers plus one.)

In order to answer your first 3 questions I'll need you to state specifically who "these folks" are.   Generic bigotry is a pet peeve.

Your last question presupposes your opinion as fact.  I don't agree that Canada exhibits "...more duty to higher risk immigrants than its own people".  I can't imagine how you could look at any available data and conclude otherwise.  Admittedly, survivor bias may have rendered me blind to the risks.  I'm one of the few lucky Canadians who has not had a family member murdered by a high risk immigrant.

These "folks" are Islamic terrorists and high risk individuals from certain countries in general. You can very easily and significantly reduce the risk of citizens by eliminating the influx of immigrants from certain countries (see the video about Pakistani children learning to behead people).

Please stop with your self righteous nonsense (ie you must be a bigot if you don't agree!). So, tell me how much you know about Islam - besides what you're spoon-fed?

My last question presupposes my opinion as fact? If a country is bringing in high risk immigrants in (and they end up killing citizens) how is the country not putting the duty of high risk immigrants over their own citizens? The country is voluntarily bringing them in! Now, if you say "well, they didn't know back then." That's fair...but if they keep bringing them in, then they are violating the duty to their own citizens.

So, why should a country increase the risk against its own citizens? What benefit does it have to bring in higher risk immigrants?

I mean, doesn't this seem somewhat clear?


"l: O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous."

Quran 9:123

Or maybe this?

"We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers."

Quran 3:151

Surely, only bigots and Islamophobes would see a problem with this, right? Now, we can do the whole "well, this is out of context thing" but then why are there so many of these terrorist attacks then? Why are these attacks happening around the world?



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