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Re: Excerpt from John Bolton's book
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2020, 07:28:52 AM »
Rioting is not uncommon when you have high unemployment.  But blame it on Democratic mayors.


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Re: Excerpt from John Bolton's book
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2020, 07:33:22 AM »
Rioting is not uncommon when you have high unemployment.  But blame it on Democratic mayors.

Rioting is extremely common when you tell the protesters the police will do nothing, and we will also release you rioters with no bail after arrest.

Worked out great for Bill de Blasio, Minneapolis, Chicago ---- oh, I forgot - all Democratically controlled for years on end!

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Re: Excerpt from John Bolton's book
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2020, 07:43:05 AM »
Rioting is not uncommon when you have high unemployment.  But blame it on Democratic mayors.

Rioting is extremely common when you tell the protesters the police will do nothing, and we will also release you rioters with no bail after arrest.

Worked out great for Bill de Blasio, Minneapolis, Chicago ---- oh, I forgot - all Democratically controlled for years on end!

Rioting was common before they were withdrawn.  Ask Captain Bonespur how the bunker inspection went.

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Re: Excerpt from John Bolton's book
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2020, 07:51:09 AM »

I am wondering if we are at an inflection point. More and more Republicans seem to be deciding Trump is evil and has to go. In 5 months we will see...

I do think we are at an inflection point. I think the "silent majority" is furious with the lawlessness being permitted by the Democratic big city mayors.

Personally, I think this election will now turn out to be a debate on "law and order" vs "anarchy".

Like you say, we will see.
But they're ok with the lawlessness of the President and the Federal Government?

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Re: Excerpt from John Bolton's book
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2020, 08:05:56 AM »

I am wondering if we are at an inflection point. More and more Republicans seem to be deciding Trump is evil and has to go. In 5 months we will see...

I do think we are at an inflection point. I think the "silent majority" is furious with the lawlessness being permitted by the Democratic big city mayors.

Personally, I think this election will now turn out to be a debate on "law and order" vs "anarchy".

Like you say, we will see.
But they're ok with the lawlessness of the President and the Federal Government?


Yeah, sure RB - maybe you can be more specific?

You referring to that Russian Hoax or the Ukranian scandal or another one of those "nothing burgers"?

Get your data over to Adam Schiff, Schumer and Nadler - maybe you have a shot at another impeachment before Trump is re-elected.

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Re: Excerpt from John Bolton's book
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2020, 09:35:24 AM »
“So often, the president would say here’s what I want to do and here’s how I want to do it and I would have to say to him, Mr. President I understand what you want to do but you can’t do it that way. It violates the law,” Tillerson said.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/tillerson-trumps-instructions-were-often-odds-the-law

At the same event last night, the former secretary of state told CBS News’ Bob Schieffer, in reference to his White House experiences, “What was challenging for me coming from the disciplined, highly process-oriented Exxon Mobil corporation was to go to work for a man who is pretty undisciplined, doesn’t like to read, doesn’t read briefing reports, doesn’t like to get into the details of a lot of things, but rather just kind of says, ‘This is what I believe.’”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/tillerson-trumps-instructions-were-often-odds-the-law

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Re: Excerpt from John Bolton's book
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2020, 09:48:31 AM »
Injunction denied.

IV. CONCLUSION

  Defendant Bolton has gambled with the national security of the United States.  He has exposed his country to harm and himself to civil (and potentially criminal) liability.  But these facts do no control the motion before the Court.  The government has failed to establish that an injunction will prevent irreparable harm.  Its motion is accordingly DENIED.
   It is SO ORDERED.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/read-bolton-book-injunction-ruling/index.html


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Re: Excerpt from John Bolton's book
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2020, 07:05:36 PM »
Seems Trump's only niece, Mary L. Trump, is also coming out with a book on July 28th. The title is: Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man

Is it not really strange how his supporters just sort of ignore the books and comments that have been written by very credible people who know him well and show how dysfunctional Trump and his White House is? Do they really think they know Trump better than his friends, family and associates?

I have a little experience in psychology and have been saying for a long time that it is quite obvious that Trump has serious mental issues. Seems the book may suggest the same - and his niece is a clinical psychologist.

Here is the Amazon description of the book...

'In this revelatory, authoritative portrait of Donald J. Trump and the toxic family that made him, Mary L. Trump, a trained clinical psychologist and Donald’s only niece, shines a bright light on the dark history of their family in order to explain how her uncle became the man who now threatens the world’s health, economic security, and social fabric.

Mary Trump spent much of her childhood in her grandparents’ large, imposing house in the heart of Queens, where Donald and his four siblings grew up. She describes a nightmare of traumas, destructive relationships, and a tragic combination of neglect and abuse. She explains how specific events and general family patterns created the damaged man who currently occupies the Oval Office, including the strange and harmful relationship between Fred Trump and his two oldest sons, Fred Jr. and Donald.

A firsthand witness to countless holiday meals and family interactions, Mary brings an incisive wit and unexpected humor to sometimes grim, often confounding family events. She recounts in unsparing detail everything from her uncle Donald’s place in the family spotlight and Ivana’s penchant for regifting to her grandmother’s frequent injuries and illnesses and the appalling way Donald, Fred Trump’s favorite son, dismissed and derided him when he began to succumb to Alzheimer’s.

Numerous pundits, armchair psychologists, and journalists have sought to parse Donald J. Trump’s lethal flaws. Mary L. Trump has the education, insight, and intimate familiarity needed to reveal what makes Donald, and the rest of her clan, tick. She alone can recount this fascinating, unnerving saga, not just because of her insider’s perspective but also because she is the only Trump willing to tell the truth about one of the world’s most powerful and dysfunctional families."
Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason. - Mark Twain

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Re: Excerpt from John Bolton's book
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2020, 08:59:38 AM »
Why did it take Trump to remove Bolton if he thought he was so incompetent and such a poor President. He got fired, why didn't he quit?

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Re: Excerpt from John Bolton's book
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2020, 03:50:51 PM »
This book is very interesting and helps sort things out (I got my Kindle copy today).  When it was reported that Flynn had lied to Pence, it only made him look more guilty.  I bet that kind of detail (the charade press release) was redacted in The Mueller Report.  Sometimes lies to the media have their consequences.

The criticism intensified dramatically when Flynn seemingly lied to Pence and others about the Kislyak conversation. Why Flynn would lie about an innocent conversation, I never understood. What senior Administration aides, and indeed Trump himself, told me a few days later made more sense, namely, that they had already lost confidence in Flynn for his inadequate performance (much as Kissinger had predicted), and the “Russian issue” was simply a politically convenient cover story.

Bolton, John R. . The Room Where It Happened: A White House Memoir (p. 12). Simon & Schuster. Kindle Edition.