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adesigar

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Re: Full recount by hand it will be
« Reply #80 on: November 22, 2020, 07:06:38 PM »
^ It's dismissed by PA Courts, maybe just in time to appeal to US Supreme Court.

No problem with Trump following the Constitution and legal system to get around a corrupt state like PA.

Gotta love that Sydney Powell is not intimidated by the scum in D.C.


You mean this Sidney Powell?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-sidney-powell-not-part-of-trumps-legal-team


cwericb

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Re: Full recount by hand it will be
« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2020, 07:09:51 PM »
Yup - he's saying there is a strong legal basis depending on the evidence. So why not play it out and not have a hissy fit, like the 4 year
hissy fit Democrats had...

There is no question that a very large portion of the population believes the election was stolen. Unfortunately, we are looking a lot
like a banana republic - which I never thought I would say about America.

Biden will likely become President, as time will run out - but exposing the fraud and cheating is well worth the time.

Cubs I pretty well agree with everything you say in this post.

The problem comes in when some people tend to confuse accusations with evidence. But even worse when they see no actual evidence they still believe the accusations.

I would also suggest that Trump does not have a great track record in the truth department. But by all means lay out the actual evidence and let the courts decide. Hopefully the people will side with the courts and not the politicians.

But consider this. The AMOUNT of fraud to make a difference in the election would have to be massive - millions of votes. If it was that massive one would think that it would have to be very, very obvious and pretty darn easy to prove.

And yes, the situation is embarrassing, but not only to the US, but most democratic countries.
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Re: Full recount by hand it will be
« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2020, 07:11:03 PM »
WOW! I said before that this would be sad if it wasn't so pathetic. They're really going hard for that pathetic thing. These may be the most incompetent bunch of people that God ever let through the door. At this point I'm honestly wondering how they manage to get dressed in the morning.

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Re: Full recount by hand it will be
« Reply #83 on: November 22, 2020, 07:15:53 PM »
Yup - he's saying there is a strong legal basis depending on the evidence. So why not play it out and not have a hissy fit, like the 4 year
hissy fit Democrats had...

There is no question that a very large portion of the population believes the election was stolen. Unfortunately, we are looking a lot
like a banana republic - which I never thought I would say about America.

Biden will likely become President, as time will run out - but exposing the fraud and cheating is well worth the time.
They are playing it out. That's how it's done. You take your evidence and you go to court. The problem is that the courts are saying that their basis, their evidence, and pretty much everything relating to them is bullshit. At this point I think they lost 34 cases. That's a tremendous amount of cases.

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Re: Full recount by hand it will be
« Reply #84 on: November 22, 2020, 07:42:23 PM »
The problem is that a certain percentage of the cult believe Trump no matter what the court or anyone else says.
Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason. - Mark Twain

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Re: Full recount by hand it will be
« Reply #85 on: November 22, 2020, 08:27:00 PM »
Yeah. They're usually the bunch that are raving about law and order.  ::)

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Re: Full recount by hand it will be
« Reply #86 on: November 22, 2020, 11:05:59 PM »
^ Well, I'm certainly not a lawyer.

But you're not Alan Dershowitz either - so I will go with his opinion:



DERSHOWITZ: Well, let me give you my completely objective, not wishful thinking, constitutional analysis.

They have two or three legal constitutional paths. For example, in Pennsylvania, they have two very strong legal arguments, one, that the courts changed what the legislature did about counting ballots after the end of Election Day.

Thatís a winning issue in the Supreme Court. I donít necessarily support it, but itís a winning issue in the Supreme Court. And Justice Alito has already hinted thatís a winning issue.


They also have a winning issue on the Supreme Court on equal protection, that some counties allowed flawed ballots to be cured, while others didnít. Bush vs. Gore suggests that an equal protection argument can prevail.

The problem with that argument is, they donít have the numbers necessarily to support it. If itís right that Biden is ahead by some 70,000 or 80,000 votes, they have to show enough contested votes, under those two legal theories, to change the outcome.

The other legal theory they had, which is a potentially strong one, is that the computers, either fraudulently or by glitches, changed hundreds of thousands of votes. There are enough votes to make a difference, but I havenít seen the evidence to support that.

So, in one case, they donít have the numbers. In another case, they donít seem yet to have the evidence. Maybe they do. I havenít seen it. But the legal theory is there to support them if they have the numbers and they have the evidence.


Ok Cubs, update. Looks like they filed their appeal to the 3rd circuit. And what do you know, the only thing they're appealing is the judge's decision to amend their complaint. That is the amendment to their amendment to bring it back to the initial complaint (joke!). They are not challenging the judge's ruling that their case has no standing and no merit.

So IF they win the appeal, they will get to go back before the same judge that ruled that their case has no standing, no merit, and that their request for redress is insane and outside the authority of the court.

This is the legal equivalent of: the initial beat down was not enough so we want to go back for seconds. I guess they never get tired of loosing either.

Seriously, who's repping these guys? The law firm of Jalopi, Giuliani & Gambini?

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Re: Full recount by hand it will be
« Reply #87 on: November 22, 2020, 11:18:40 PM »
^ It's dismissed by PA Courts, maybe just in time to appeal to US Supreme Court.

No problem with Trump following the Constitution and legal system to get around a corrupt state like PA.

Gotta love that Sydney Powell is not intimidated by the scum in D.C.


You mean this Sidney Powell?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-sidney-powell-not-part-of-trumps-legal-team

No, no...this one:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/23/trump-campaign-cuts-ties-with-attorney-sidney-powell-after-bizarre-election-claims

Value2 can you stop putting up shit from places even Trump doesn't want to visit!  Cheers!
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Re: Full recount by hand it will be
« Reply #88 on: November 22, 2020, 11:21:13 PM »
^ It's dismissed by PA Courts, maybe just in time to appeal to US Supreme Court.

No problem with Trump following the Constitution and legal system to get around a corrupt state like PA.

Gotta love that Sydney Powell is not intimidated by the scum in D.C.


You mean this Sidney Powell?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-sidney-powell-not-part-of-trumps-legal-team

No, no...this one:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/23/trump-campaign-cuts-ties-with-attorney-sidney-powell-after-bizarre-election-claims

Value2 can you stop putting up shit from places even Trump doesn't want to visit!  Cheers!

I think Cubsfan, Cardboard and Greg's Sidney Powell boners just went limp.  I'm pretty sure Trump is on Viagra, so feel free to use.  Cheers!
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Re: Full recount by hand it will be
« Reply #89 on: November 23, 2020, 04:53:51 AM »
^ Damn - I can see you boys have been busy trashing me. No problem though. I don't get everything right. I'm pretty firm in my belief that this
was a stolen election, but proving it in a few weeks is a pretty monumental task. Exposing the fraud is vitally important to the country though.

And this time, unlike the last 4 years, when I listen to you jokers try and convince me about "Russian/Trump" collusion, the integrity of the
FBI, Ukrainian Hoaxes, and the "wonderfully woke" Presidency of Barrack Obama - I could be wrong on these details. 4 years of constant
drivel and total BS.

So stick one in your win column  - along with your loser Biden Presidency.  There are a whole lot of gutless people in this
country that are with you on that one. Joe Biden will go down as one of the biggest jokes in American history when he opens his mouth
enough times. Should be real interesting watching him get whipsawed by "The Squad". Taking down the DC Swamp has always been a Herculean task.

If Republicans lose the Senate - there will be hell to pay - if not, gridlock will be a very good thing.