Author Topic: Trump Cronies Granted Pardons  (Read 10976 times)

Viking

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Re: Trump Cronies Granted Pardons
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2020, 12:45:43 AM »
It appears Trump is just getting started with the pardons. My question is what is a pardon worth financially? $10 million? $100 million. My guess is by the time he is done the Trump organization will be raking in the dough over the next decade or so (nothing illegal of course!). (You scratch my back now, i値l scratch yours later... wink, wink, nudge, nudge... :-)

Hey, i get it.... all of these people getting pardoned were screwed over by lefties out to destroy the country :-)

And hey, former President痴 have to feed their kids too.

Trump is such a patriot and family man. No wonder so many people love the guy :-) He is such a breath of fresh air when compared to other sleazy politicians who go to Washington and line their pockets and leave a hot mess behind.

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Trump administration considering immunity for Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman: report
- https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/531414-trump-administration-considering-immunity-for
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Re: Trump Cronies Granted Pardons
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2020, 04:57:15 AM »
Pardons have been standard course for exiting presidents going back ages. Being surprised Trump is doing it is ignorant. Although I have been told by many liberals that Trump isnt actually leaving the office and there will be a military escort required. So maybe it is different this time!

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Re: Trump Cronies Granted Pardons
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2020, 09:55:59 AM »
I find it bizarre that the TDS folks think the deep state stuff is a conspiracy theory given that the entire basis of the "crimes" committed by Snowden, Assange, Manning, etc....is simply that they exposed deep state operations. Would be a great day for America for those folks to be freed of the Bush/Obama deep state shackles.

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Re: Trump Cronies Granted Pardons
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2020, 10:28:28 AM »
Simple amendment to the constitution is that a presidents pardon power should end midnight on Nov 2nd of his last year in office..........the American people can decide the morning of November 3rd what they think of his pardons as they vote later that day......the President can choose whether its more important to save his cronies or get re-elected..........a second term presidents pardon power would need to end in the midterms of that 4 year cycle...with the power vested in the house & senate leaders.

This broad pardon power is very unbecoming of a country like the US........Clinton's half brother one was a disgrace

cubsfan

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Re: Trump Cronies Granted Pardons
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2020, 10:31:39 AM »
^ The last thing you should do is give the Senate & House leaders or Congress anymore power - they will just abuse it as we have seen these
past few years.

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Re: Trump Cronies Granted Pardons
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2020, 10:57:43 AM »
Clinton, W., and now Trump with the egregious pardons. This is something we should have bipartisan disgust for.

Obama was an exception

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Re: Trump Cronies Granted Pardons
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2020, 11:06:38 AM »
^ The last thing you should do is give the Senate & House leaders or Congress anymore power - they will just abuse it as we have seen these
past few years.

True...............2nd term of a president a pardon requires senate & house agreement........whatever way you look at it it needs to be changed......its very unbecoming of a constitutional democracy whatever way you slice it.

When Trump broadly pardons those around him (Jared etc.) for everything they did the last four years......can even the Trumpers agree its a scumbag move

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Re: Trump Cronies Granted Pardons
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2020, 12:36:10 PM »
I would suggest reviewing the founders discussions regarding the pardon.

The entire point is to circumvent Congress.

When the issue of presidential crimes came up in relation to the pardon, Madison I believe argued that if such a case came to pass, congress would certainly impeach the President. I guess people had more spine back then.
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Re: Trump Cronies Granted Pardons
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2020, 04:44:06 PM »
I guess I keep watching what happens next:
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