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cwericb

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Re: Good Ole Joe is your next President
« Reply #460 on: September 27, 2020, 06:16:42 PM »
Who cares about Viking and Cwericb?

Two Canadians who apparently love investing but, who will support anything opposed to capitalism and freedom.

They hate Trump because he is rude (and lies like every politician, less than others in my view but, anyway) and will do all they can to support the other side which is opposite of their ideals.

What is the name of that disease? TDS? I think it is more troubling than that.

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Well since I seem to have been dragged into this conversation...

Trump is a pathological liar and a fraud. Anyone who thinks he lies less than other politicians hasn’t been paying close attention or would seem to be a little on the gullible side. And if you check the facts, I believe the number of major lies he has told since taking office now number in the thousands. He can’t help himself, he just makes up stuff all the time. It is part of his personality make up. Anyone who doesn’t understand this should do a little research.

However, his defenders want to believe only what Trump says because everything else is, of course, “Fake News” - because Trump tells them so. If you can’t believe a man’s word, than he is not much of a man.

He has also convinced his followers of his great investment prowess. Yet it is public knowledge he has gone bankrupt numerous times and refuses to release any of his tax records that might actually support his claims of his business prowess. He constantly promised to release his records during his campaign, and then he just laughed at the suckers who believed that he would ever release them.

Just another lie. But if they were favorable, don’t you think he would have released them?

There will come a time when the truth comes out about Trump’s past Russian dealings that will shock some of his supporters. But, of course, most will simply follow the Trump line that anything negative about him or that doesn’t appear on FOX must be ‘Fake News’. Because... remember he could go out on 5th avenue and shoot someone and not lose a single (sucker) or voter.

Then there are Trump’s mental problems. He is among other things, a narcissistic sociopath and a pathological liar. To be clear, that is not Trump’s fault, because that is just the way he is. But is that really the quality of leader you want leading your country?

And yes, Canadians are very concerned about this election because much of what happens in the US has a direct effect on us. Ninety percent of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US/Canadian border and your population is nearly 10 times Canada’s.

Anyone want to explain why Trump has gone out of his way to piss off nearly every single one of the US’s allies while sucking up to Putin, Xi Jinping and Kim Jong-un, who played Trump like a fiddle?
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Re: Good Ole Joe is your next President
« Reply #461 on: September 27, 2020, 06:56:16 PM »

Anyone want to explain why Trump has gone out of his way to piss off nearly every single one of the US’s allies while sucking up to Putin, Xi Jinping and Kim Jong-un, who played Trump like a fiddle?

I will let any others respond to your rant, as it's ok, I know you won't change your mind.  But this is a little tough -- "played them like a fiddle"

- Putin is in a box now. Unlike taking Crimea, and attacking US forces in Syria - Putin has to be very careful, since Trump smashed him in Syria.
  He's got Crimea now, thanks to Obama not arming the Ukrainians, but now Trump gave the Ukrainians missiles, anti-tank missiles, and armored
  vehicles.   This is good for Putin???
   
- China? Really?  Much to Washington's dismay, the ONLY politician to forcefully go after China on BOTH sides (Dems & Republicans) is Trump!
  4 years ago this was heresy in DC - the Swamp and Lobbyists were making far too much money on China. Trump has been TOTALLY right on China.
  The Chinese can not wait to get Trump out of office.

- Korea?  How much saber rattling/blackmail are you hearing out of the little dictator. His economy has been ruined by the Trump sanctions. Destroyed.
  But somehow this is a benefit to N. Korea - How does that work?

Much of Trump's brilliance on foreign policy is NOT MILITARY.  It's economic isolation and strangulation. Ask the Mullahs how that is working out.
Russia is fucked. North Korea - toast.  China - now a worldwide pariah after the China Virus - and Trump putting the spotlight on them for 4 years.




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Re: Good Ole Joe is your next President
« Reply #462 on: September 27, 2020, 08:50:28 PM »
Like the man, Trump’s foreign policy has been a complete hot mess. (I wonder what the senior US military establishment thinks of Trump‘s decisions.) Foreign policy is a game of chess. We all know, Trump only plays checkers.

I agree China is an emerging threat that needs to be dealt with. Way underestimated. However, Trumps tactics in trying to deal with China are a complete hot mess. For example, the TikTok fiasco looks like some sort of mafia shakedown. I get the need to get all data control out of China. China plays the long game and Trump simply is overmatched. But i do give him full credit for calling China out and stirring up alot of dust.

Russia is one massive head scratcher for me. Russia’s issues today are not Trump but $35 oil. Clearly Trump likes (dare i say loves?) that country and its senior leadership. A lot. Wow! Double wow!

I see Trump made millions from the Miss USA pageant when it was held in Moscow in 2013 - bankrolled by a Russian oligarch. I would love Russians too if they dropped a couple million dollars in my pocket when i ran a business event in their country. I am not suggesting anything wrong was done by Trump; or ‘collusion‘ so you can settle down :-) when trying to understand peoples motives a great strategy is to follow the money. This is an investment board after all. I think i am starting to finally understand why Trump likes that country so much.)

The way Trump has treated allies (Canada and Western Europe) is also a big head scratcher. These are the same countries that bled along with Americans in the trenches of World War 1, World War 2, Iraq, Afganistan etc. Or the Canadian embassy in Iran helping out a few American during the hostage crisis. Not perfect. But important. Just like with family, there are always difficult conversations that need to be had (like paying your fair share for NATO). But Trump’s approach has been absurd and destructive. (Hint, hint, this group of countries might be able to help the US with China in future years when China is much bigger and the US needs help. But that is a chess move not checkers.)

North Korea looks to be moving forward with developing nuclear weapons. Did sanctions hurt the country? Looks like they did. Did sanctions change the trajectory of their nuclear program? Not likely. South Korea? Likely has no idea what the US is doing. (As an aside, the in person meetings between North Korea and Trump actually looked like a sketch out of a Monty Python show.)

Middle east - if anyone can explain to me what is going on in that region then please help me. Syria? Walked away from allies who were then massacred by the Turks. But US troup count is down. Afganistan? No President can put lipstick on that pig. Iraq? No idea. Iran? I do not disagree with Trump’s approach on this one. Saudi Arabia? Not sure they are the great ally Trump thinks they are (9-11 was not that long ago, there was that sawing business in the Turkish embassy, Yemen is a human catastrophe etc). Israel? Big change in US policy... no idea what the long term implications are.

The big problem is US foreign policy is getting directed more and more by one man. If you think he is a stable genius, like some, then great! If you think he is (insert one of the words below) then the US in deep shit if he is re-elected :-)
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The ten most common words Americans (not Canadians) use to describe Trump: "incompetent," "arrogant," "strong," "idiot," "egotistical," "ignorant," "great," "racist," "a------" and "narcissistic."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/incompetent-strong-egotistical-words-people-describe-trump/story?id=50178088
« Last Edit: September 27, 2020, 09:03:36 PM by Viking »

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Re: Good Ole Joe is your next President
« Reply #463 on: September 28, 2020, 03:53:50 AM »
Anyone knows how Trump’s cardboard Empire is still afloat? With the recent disclosures by the failing NYT (checks the stock price 🤣) and Trump’s $750 tax bill in 2016, when things were pretty peachy with respect to real estate, how come the Trump organization hasn’t filed yet? It should be fun to follow the flow of money because I don’t think it is internally generated cash flow.
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Re: Good Ole Joe is your next President
« Reply #464 on: September 28, 2020, 05:13:33 AM »
This documentary explains the grift pretty well.

https://www.sho.com/titles/3465228/the-family-business-trump-and-taxes

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Re: Good Ole Joe is your next President
« Reply #465 on: September 28, 2020, 05:28:31 AM »
Anyone knows how Trump’s cardboard Empire is still afloat? With the recent disclosures by the failing NYT (checks the stock price 🤣) and Trump’s $750 tax bill in 2016, when things were pretty peachy with respect to real estate, how come the Trump organization hasn’t filed yet? It should be fun to follow the flow of money because I don’t think it is internally generated cash flow.

For many years there have been rumors that Trump has been laundering Russian money through his real estate holdings in New York as well as his casinos.

This could explain why his businesses are being propped up as well as his refusal to say anything negative against Putin.

When/if the Deutsche Bank records are ever released then we will likely see the proof of this.
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Re: Good Ole Joe is your next President
« Reply #466 on: September 28, 2020, 05:47:37 AM »
For those who don’t know the history of Trump/Deutsche Bank, here are a few details.

It is not rocket science to understand that no North American bank is going to lend money to someone who has a record of bankruptcies and failed businesses.

Trump turned to Deutsche Bank for his financing - a bank with a history of dealing with Russian oligarchs and a with questionable record of money laundering.

Over the years Deutsche Bank has loaned Trump $2.5 billion and continued to “loan” him money even after he had defaulted on $640 million in loans - against the advice of the bank's commercial unit.
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Re: Good Ole Joe is your next President
« Reply #467 on: September 28, 2020, 05:04:03 PM »
Another not so stable genius. The Trump’s campaign seems to be the largest collection of loser ever assembled by a president. Where does he find these people?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/police-bodycam-footage-brad-parscale-incident

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Re: Good Ole Joe is your next President
« Reply #468 on: September 28, 2020, 07:23:26 PM »
The Trump’s campaign seems to be the largest collection of loser ever assembled by a president. Where does he find these people?


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Re: Good Ole Joe is your next President
« Reply #469 on: September 28, 2020, 07:48:02 PM »

Anyone want to explain why Trump has gone out of his way to piss off nearly every single one of the US’s allies while sucking up to Putin, Xi Jinping and Kim Jong-un, who played Trump like a fiddle?

I will let any others respond to your rant, as it's ok, I know you won't change your mind.  But this is a little tough -- "played them like a fiddle"

- Putin is in a box now. Unlike taking Crimea, and attacking US forces in Syria - Putin has to be very careful, since Trump smashed him in Syria.
  He's got Crimea now, thanks to Obama not arming the Ukrainians, but now Trump gave the Ukrainians missiles, anti-tank missiles, and armored
  vehicles.   This is good for Putin???
   
- China? Really?  Much to Washington's dismay, the ONLY politician to forcefully go after China on BOTH sides (Dems & Republicans) is Trump!
  4 years ago this was heresy in DC - the Swamp and Lobbyists were making far too much money on China. Trump has been TOTALLY right on China.
  The Chinese can not wait to get Trump out of office.

- Korea?  How much saber rattling/blackmail are you hearing out of the little dictator. His economy has been ruined by the Trump sanctions. Destroyed.
  But somehow this is a benefit to N. Korea - How does that work?

Much of Trump's brilliance on foreign policy is NOT MILITARY.  It's economic isolation and strangulation. Ask the Mullahs how that is working out.
Russia is fucked. North Korea - toast.  China - now a worldwide pariah after the China Virus - and Trump putting the spotlight on them for 4 years.

Since it seems that anything negative said about Trump is viewed by his supporters as ‘fake news”, here are Trump’s own words... 

On Putin...
“As you [Putin] probably heard, I am a big fan of yours!” “[Putin] has done a really great job of outsmarting our country. He could not have been nicer. He was so nice. He is really very much of a leader. He said nice things about me,” “I like him because he called me a genius. Putin did call me a genius.”

On Xi Jinping...
  "China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus," "The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!"
"Our relationship with China has now probably never, ever been better," "He's for China, I'm for  the U.S., but other than that, we love each other."


Kim Jong Un ... “[Kim] knows that I am with him & does not want to break his promise to me. Deal will happen!”  "I was really being tough and so was he," Trump said. "And we would go back and forth. And then we fell in love. No really. He wrote me beautiful letters." "They were great letters. And then we fell in love,"
                                    
One could also add other quotes of how he has sucked up to other despots like Erdoğan of Turkey and Bolsonaro of Brazil.

But contrast the above with his relationships with US allies...

Australia: His first call to another world leader. Trump hung up in the Prime Minister’s ear Because the Prime Minister expected Trump to live up to a previous agreement.

Canada: [Trudeau] acted so meek and mild," he said. "Very dishonest and weak." - this after tariffs were placed on Canada under a rarely invoked law that allows levies to be placed on a country in the interest of national security.

Denmark: Trump canceled his meeting with Prime Minister Frederiksen saying she was “nasty and inappropriate".

France: ... “France just put a digital tax on our great American technology companies. If anybody taxes them, it should be their home Country, the USA. We will announce a substantial reciprocal action on Macron’s foolishness shortly. I’ve always said American wine is better than French wine!”

Germany: "I think it's very sad when Germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with Russia, where you're supposed to be guarding against Russia, and Germany goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a year to Russia,” “Berlin is a captive to Russia"

Mexico: "The problem is that Mexico is an “abuser” of the United States, taking but never giving. It has been this way for decades,”

Sweden:" Very disappointed in Prime Minister Stefan Löfven for being unable to act. Sweden has let our African American Community down in the United States. I watched the tapes of A$AP Rocky, and he was being followed and harassed by troublemakers. Treat Americans fairly!"

United Kingdom: "I have been very critical about the way the U.K. and Prime Minister Theresa May handled Brexit. What a mess she and her representatives have created. I told her how it should be done, but she decided to go another way. I do not know the Ambassador, but he is not liked ...."

And Americans don’t understand why their allies are fed up while their adversaries play Trump like a fiddle.
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