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ERICOPOLY

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Re: Howz that rally ....
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2020, 02:29:30 PM »
While the same basic epistemology is undoubtedly still at play in today’s media landscape, Taibbi argues that three significant changes since the late 1980s necessitate an update of the thesis pioneered in Manufacturing Consent. The first is the rise of conservative talk radio and Fox News, which triggered the partisanization of news so familiar to today. “Using a point of view rather than ‘objectivity’ as commercial strategies,” Taibbi writes, “these stations presaged an atomization of the news landscape under which each consumer had an outlet somewhere to match his or her political beliefs.” The second major change is the advent of the 24-hour news cycle, which the author says trained reporters to “value breaking news, immediacy, and visual potential over import” while creating “a new kind of anxiety and addictive dependency” among consumers. Finally, the rise of the internet and social media contributed even further to the general atmosphere of frenzied and atomized content consumption that today structures the news business.

https://jacobinmag.com/2020/04/hate-inc-media-matt-taibbi-book-review


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Re: Howz that rally ....
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2020, 02:42:52 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/22/us/nascar-race-bubba-wallace-talladega/index.html

When I see stuff like this today, I remember when Tiger Woods had to go through it almost 25 years ago...remember Fuzzy Zoeller talking about fried chicken and collard greens being served at the Augusta dinner. 

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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2020, 03:27:27 PM »
The man isn't dumb, but he IS trapped in a box that he cannot escape from - and the box is imploding.
He cannot just do a BK, and walk away. He cannot just blame everyone else, and resign disgusted. He cannot escape that as the incumbent; he IS the human pinata, forced to defend. And he cannot escape that ONLY while president, the various legal challenges against him are stayed.

Sure, you can piss off lots of people, and keep them separated by continuous distraction - but you CANNOT do it from a static position. You have to be mobile - and NOT there, when people realize they've been taken. Something an incumbent CANNOT do, as he/she is trapped in the box until the next cycle.

We know the man is thin-skilled, out of his depth in the political swamp, and with few friends. The daily, and progressively more aggressive mocking as the failures pile up, have got it hurt. The pressure has to be enormous, and the leaked hissy fits are now almost every week There are only three ways out - resign as did (that loser) LBJ, fight the election (and lose), or literally die in office.

For the GOP the smartest option this time out, is to just cut bait, spend as little as possible, and literally put out Trump as the human pinata. Loose the election spectacularly, use the behind-closed-doors opportunity to erase the cancer, and come back stronger - next time. For Trump its either win at all costs (drowning man), die in office, or resign.

Remember ENRON? Kenneth Lay as CEO? Ultimately, he never went to jail - as he was dying.
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2020, 06:07:21 PM »
Just watching CNN. The White House has just ordered all press ordered out of the building and off the grounds. Small (250) demonstration outside.
Want to bet Donnie is headed for the bunker again and doesn't want anyone to know?
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Re: Howz that rally ....
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2020, 06:11:09 PM »
It would be to Trump's advantage if Dems were the only ones afraid of the virus.  Many voters make mail-in mistakes and their votes are not counted.  Something like 7% of mail-in votes were disqualified in 2018. 

FACT CHECK: Trump Spreads Unfounded Claims About Voting By Mail

Former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, a Republican and also the nation's first secretary of homeland security, told NPR last week that Trump's unfounded claims could discourage Republicans from using a form of voting that is increasingly popular and potentially safer when considering the coronavirus pandemic

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/22/881598655/fact-check-trump-spreads-unfounded-claims-about-voting-by-mail

And here is what he could be setting us up for:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/07/danger-moving-vote-by-mail-168602
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2020, 06:20:48 PM »
He will be doing whatever he can to set the stage to question the validity of the election should he lose. I said this here a couple of years ago and some just laughed at the idea.

Specifically, I suggested that if he lost the election he might state that there was massive fraud in the election and he would set up a special committee to look into it. Science fiction, perhaps? I hope so.

 I also think he could attempt to use the epidemic as an excuse to postpone the election if he doesn't think he will win. These are dangerous times.
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2020, 06:28:17 PM »
He might not be trying to challenge the legitimacy of the election.  It could be far simpler than that.  Although he may also challenge the legitimacy if needed.

25% of the votes were cast by mail in 2016.  More would be expected this year in the pandemic.

7% of the mail-in votes were disqualified in 2018 for various reasons (such as not arriving by election day in some states that have that rule).

What if a lot more than 25% of votes are cast by mail this year on covid-19 fears?  Disqualifying 7% of them is a big deal, especially for Trump if he can convince Republicans to vote at the polls out of fear that their mail-in votes might not count in a challenge that he threatens them about.
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Re: Howz that rally ....
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2020, 07:27:12 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2020, 04:17:26 AM »
The reactions from the crowd during the rally were mixed at best:
https://twitter.com/janemarielynch/status/1274512067119116289?s=21
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